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curl-6 said:
PAOerfulone said:

Nintendo Derangement Syndrome reared its ugly head yet again over the Dispatch controversy.

Everyone jumped down their throats saying they censored the game when it turns out they had absolutely nothing to do with it and it was AdHoc's own screw up/laziness that led to the censorship.

Nintendo Derangement Syndrome has been pandemic this past year ever since Switch 2 was revealed.

Genuinely weird how people can be so emotionally invested in hating a console/developer just cos it doesn't appeal to them. Incredibly childish.

What REALLY gets me is that a lot of those same people also turned around and jumped on Nintendo (Specifically Devon Pritchard) when Tomodachi: Living the Dream revealed that they have nonbinary gender options as well as same-sex relationships. Two things that they could easily ignore. Going on and on about how they've "gone woke," woke this, woke that, and it's all Devon's fault and she's already influencing them. Despite the fact that:
A) She's only been in her position for barely a month.
B) She's not even the CEO and thus doesn't get the final say on NoA's decision making, that's Satoru Shibata.
C) The game has been in development for years, LONG before she was ever in the running to take over as COO/president and thus had no influence in the decision - Nintendo has been and always will be led by Japan.
D) They promised fans as far back as Tomodachi Life's western release in 2014, when Iwata (Rest in Peace) and Reggie were still in charge, that the next game would feature same sex couples. 

They (incorrectly) jump on them for taking options away from players.

And then they jump on them for GIVING options to players.

Jesus Christ on a Stick, make up your damn minds and PICK ONE, you stupid, deranged grifters!!

rant/over

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PAOerfulone said:
curl-6 said:

Nintendo Derangement Syndrome has been pandemic this past year ever since Switch 2 was revealed.

Genuinely weird how people can be so emotionally invested in hating a console/developer just cos it doesn't appeal to them. Incredibly childish.

What REALLY gets me is that a lot of those same people also turned around and jumped on Nintendo (Specifically Devon Pritchard) when Tomodachi: Living the Dream revealed that they have nonbinary gender options as well as same-sex relationships. Two things that they could easily ignore. Going on and on about how they've "gone woke," woke this, woke that, and it's all Devon's fault and she's already influencing them. Despite the fact that:
A) She's only been in her position for barely a month.
B) She's not even the CEO and thus doesn't get the final say on NoA's decision making, that's Satoru Shibata.
C) The game has been in development for years, LONG before she was ever in the running to take over as COO/president and thus had no influence in the decision - Nintendo has been and always will be led by Japan.
D) They promised fans as far back as Tomodachi Life's western release in 2014, when Iwata and Reggie were still in charge, that the next game would feature same sex couples. 

They (incorrectly) jump on them for taking options away from players.

And then they jump on them for GIVING options to players.

Jesus Christ on a Stick, make up your damn minds and PICK ONE, you stupid, deranged grifters!!

rant/over

People getting upset over something completely optional is absolutely insane.

Antiwoke is a synonym for fucking moron and we need to stop pretending differently. If you're offended by this go cry about how the green m&m doesnt make you hard anymore. 



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From all that I’ve heard, this individual is highly reputable. Can’t say I’m too surprised if Nintendo does choose to do a February Direct… I mean, they did one every year prior to 2024/2025 (which were reasonable exceptions given the former was Switch’s twilight year, and 2025 was building up to a system launch for June).



PAOerfulone said:

Nintendo Derangement Syndrome reared its ugly head yet again over the Dispatch controversy.

Everyone jumped down their throats saying they censored the game when it turns out they had absolutely nothing to do with it and it was AdHoc's own screw up/laziness that led to the censorship.

But now you're just jumping down ad-hocs throat assuming it's their screw up/laziness and can't possibly be anything to do with Nintendo. Lol.

Ad-hocs statement: "any game that’s going to be on the Nintendo platform needs to ‘meet [Nintendo’s] established content and platform guidelines.’ This is the key point. Nintendo has content guidelines. Our game didn’t meet those guidelines."

"We initially assumed, like some of you, that because games like Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk are on the platform with similar types of uncensored mature content, Dispatch would be allowed to do the same. During the porting process it became clear that was not the case. "

Seems the CERO speculation was wrong.

https://nintendoeverything.com/dispatch-switch-2-switch-censorship-update-patch/

And those lazy Devs now say they are working with Nintendo to get it uncensored in the west but it may take weeks.



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TheRealSamusAran said:

Ok, so according to this, you can release regional variants on the eShop, as it should be, and AdHoc just effed up.

"Long-term Switch owners are likely familiar with the fact that some games are the same no matter which country you buy them from and some games aren't. This is because publishers can choose to release their games either as one file for the whole world, or separate files for different countries. AdHoc is an indie studio, so they likely chose to just make one version to release worldwide. It costs more money to release and maintain a separate version for Japan. In order to comply with CERO and also release just a single binary, censorship is necessary.

Noteworthy, Cyberpunk does this. CDPR sells a separate version of the game in Japan with a CERO Z rating that censors the nudity and removes some gore."

Pretty weird indeed. They took all the cautious to contour this problem on PS5, but with Switch looks like they didn't even care or they thought it would slide with no hard consequences. 

Like, the game was all praise on the internet after its release. You would thought they got the buck to do a separate version for Japan just like they did with PS5 when the game was still under the sheets. 

Now they have to deal with refunds all the way until fix this... Well... Choices 

I wonder if all this controversy is giving visibility to the game as people are buying the narrative of being a case of another victim of Nintendo's tyranny

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160rmf said:
TheRealSamusAran said:

Ok, so according to this, you can release regional variants on the eShop, as it should be, and AdHoc just effed up.

"Long-term Switch owners are likely familiar with the fact that some games are the same no matter which country you buy them from and some games aren't. This is because publishers can choose to release their games either as one file for the whole world, or separate files for different countries. AdHoc is an indie studio, so they likely chose to just make one version to release worldwide. It costs more money to release and maintain a separate version for Japan. In order to comply with CERO and also release just a single binary, censorship is necessary.

Noteworthy, Cyberpunk does this. CDPR sells a separate version of the game in Japan with a CERO Z rating that censors the nudity and removes some gore."

Pretty weird indeed. They took all the cautious to contour this problem on PS5, but with Switch looks like they didn't even care or they thought it would slide with no hard consequences. 

Like, the game was all praise on the internet after its release. You would thought they got the buck to do a separate version for Japan just like they did with PS5 when the game was still under the sheets. 

Now they have to deal with refunds all the way until fix this... Well... Choices 

The CERO and them refusing to do a second version for the west was just speculation.

Ad-hocs latest statement doesn't seem to support that at all. They obviously knew CERO's requirements, it was not passing Nintendo's platform and content guidelines that took them by surprise. They specifically states they didn't meet Nintendo's content guidelines.

"Any game that’s going to be on the Nintendo platform needs to ‘meet [Nintendo’s] established content and platform guidelines.’ This is the key point. Nintendo has content guidelines. Our game didn’t meet those guidelines, so we made changes that would allow us to release on their platform. That’s what happened here. Honestly we thought this would be obvious since we’re the devs that released the fully uncensored version of the game on other platforms.

We initially assumed, like some of you, that because games like Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk are on the platform with similar types of uncensored mature content, Dispatch would be allowed to do the same. During the porting process it became clear that was not the case"

They say they are now working with Nintendo to address it.

"We’re already working with Nintendo on a path forward. While we can’t make any specific promises just yet, we’re confident we’ll be able to push an update to address at least some of the censored content."

Here's what I think happened. They were planning to release fully uncensored on the west. The uncensored version didn't pass Nintendo's content guidelines for some reason. They then didn't have time to go through the approval process multiple times trying to get a partially censored build to pass so instead released the fully censored Japanese build in the west because they knew that'd pass.

They're now going to work with Nintendo to uncensor as much of the game as they possibly can.



Zippy6 said:

The CERO and them refusing to do a second version for the west was just speculation.

Ad-hocs latest statement doesn't seem to support that at all. They obviously knew CERO's requirements, it was not passing Nintendo's platform and content guidelines that took them by surprise. They specifically states they didn't meet Nintendo's content guidelines.

"Any game that’s going to be on the Nintendo platform needs to ‘meet [Nintendo’s] established content and platform guidelines.’ This is the key point. Nintendo has content guidelines. Our game didn’t meet those guidelines, so we made changes that would allow us to release on their platform. That’s what happened here. Honestly we thought this would be obvious since we’re the devs that released the fully uncensored version of the game on other platforms.

We initially assumed, like some of you, that because games like Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk are on the platform with similar types of uncensored mature content, Dispatch would be allowed to do the same. During the porting process it became clear that was not the case"

They say they are now working with Nintendo to address it.

"We’re already working with Nintendo on a path forward. While we can’t make any specific promises just yet, we’re confident we’ll be able to push an update to address at least some of the censored content."

Here's what I think happened. They were planning to release fully uncensored on the west. The uncensored version didn't pass Nintendo's content guidelines for some reason. They then didn't have time to go through the approval process multiple times trying to get a partially censored build to pass so instead released the fully censored Japanese build in the west because they knew that'd pass.

They're now going to work with Nintendo to uncensor as much of the game as they possibly can.

It's not just speculation as you frame it it's the actual reason as read Nintendo's response to the situation the guidelines are in accordance to each independent rating board only one of those boards (CERO) has guidelines that would block the game this is why games like CB2077 and TW3 don't have the same issue as they have a version specific to Japan that they submit as well Adhoc clearly weren't aware of this procedure for eShop they likely submitted the game for release across the whole eShop not factoring/knowing CERO's requirements, note Nintendo's response alluded to rating's boards. An uncensored version can release in the west with no issue as those guidelines will clear the game just fine, the censored version is most likely the same one they released on PS5 and they just used that just to get the game released globally.