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I am

Theist 96 20.25%
 
Atheist 178 37.55%
 
Agnostic 96 20.25%
 
Spiritual but non theist 29 6.12%
 
Other 32 6.75%
 
God. 43 9.07%
 
Total:474
Mystro-Sama on 02 July 2017
o_O.Q said:

it does because without god objective morality cannot exist

Depends on which school of thought you follow. Some say morality is innate in human beings and others say it comes about through reasoning from trial and error.



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jason1637 on 02 July 2017

Yeah. God is so cool.



gigaSheik on 02 July 2017

If you're wasting so much time pondering about it, it seems like its important. At least for you...



potato_hamster on 02 July 2017

(a)gnostic only refers to the ability to know. It has nothing to do with whether or not you have a belief in a deity which is defined using the terms theist and atheist. You can be a gnostic atheist (you believe you know that no go exists) or a agnostic theist (believe in a deity but don't believe you can know whether that deity exists.

I mean if we're going to talk religion and label ourselves, we should be using these labels correctly.



Puppyroach on 02 July 2017
John2290 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yes, I'm a communist, and yes I'm an atheist.

An as an atheist what would your thoughts be if tomorrow, Gods existence was proven to an absolute, irrefutable scientific fact and only that, nothing changes, e are still in the dark not knowing intention or lack of...and somehow you were the only one outside of academia told and shown proof, would you still believe a lack of God? Would you wish God had created an afterlife? Would you change anything about your character? Would you feel disturbed or relieved or horrified? I'm curious here, please share.


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Puppyroach on 02 July 2017
John2290 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yes, I'm a communist, and yes I'm an atheist.

An as an atheist what would your thoughts be if tomorrow, Gods existence was proven to an absolute, irrefutable scientific fact and only that, nothing changes, e are still in the dark not knowing intention or lack of...and somehow you were the only one outside of academia told and shown proof, would you still believe a lack of God? Would you wish God had created an afterlife? Would you change anything about your character? Would you feel disturbed or relieved or horrified? I'm curious here, please share.

Two things:

1: Regarding your original premise. I care about the existence of god just as much as I care about the existence of Zeus or other imaginary beings, that is; is don't care about them at all. The reason why it's important to challenge people's beliefs though, is because I DO care about if we have people in the world with great power who believe in imaginary beings.

2: Regarding the premise you set forth in your answer above. Well, if we were to prove the existence of an entity we could call "god" then I would be excited for it. I would still be an atheist since I obviously wouldn't have to believe in the existence of a god considering it being a part of our natural world. But the question then arises: Who's god is it? Not even Christians are in agreement about what "God" is so how would you know that it is God you have identified and not just a very powerful being, capable of doing what looks like incredible things? The problem with belief in a creator occurs when you try to claim that it has a physical connection with our world. If it is only a way for you to reach peace of mind, then it is only a part of your imagination. But the moment you claim it's existence, the burden of proof lands on you and I expect you to form and hypothesis and try to show the existence of this creature.

 



monocle_layton on 02 July 2017
S.T.A.G.E. said:
monocle_layton said:
How about we just keep it in our personal lives? I've lived my life with people not knowing what my beliefs are on religion, and it doesn't make one difference.

Does it really matter if I'm atheist? Or a buddhist, christian, etc..

Very mature of you, but humans are social animals and when a belief becomes a mass religion, it dons the appearance of a culture. This is why it becomes a talking piece.

Is the beginning of the first sentence sarcastic? Having some difficulty wondering if you're being serious or not

Aeolus451 said:
monocle_layton said:
How about we just keep it in our personal lives? I've lived my life with people not knowing what my beliefs are on religion, and it doesn't make one difference.

Does it really matter if I'm atheist? Or a buddhist, christian, etc..

I actually like it when people in general have this mindset with religion. Alot of negative things that happen in the name of religion to everyone and to people of religion just wouldn't happen if people stop trying to make laws or make other people live their lives based on those beliefs. 

Truth is, I used to be very involved with religion. However, I was brainwashed into religious extremism (not by my parents thankfully). Ever since snapping out of it, I've always preferred to keep it to myself. Forcing beliefs have never created anything good. 



S.T.A.G.E. on 02 July 2017
monocle_layton said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Very mature of you, but humans are social animals and when a belief becomes a mass religion, it dons the appearance of a culture. This is why it becomes a talking piece.

Is the beginning of the first sentence sarcastic? Having some difficulty wondering if you're being serious or not

Aeolus451 said:

I actually like it when people in general have this mindset with religion. Alot of negative things that happen in the name of religion to everyone and to people of religion just wouldn't happen if people stop trying to make laws or make other people live their lives based on those beliefs. 

Truth is, I used to be very involved with religion. However, I was brainwashed into religious extremism (not by my parents thankfully). Ever since snapping out of it, I've always preferred to keep it to myself. Forcing beliefs have never created anything good. 

Oops tagged the wrong person. Apologies.some of my posts were from my cellphone.



monocle_layton on 02 July 2017
S.T.A.G.E. said:
monocle_layton said:

Is the beginning of the first sentence sarcastic? Having some difficulty wondering if you're being serious or not

Truth is, I used to be very involved with religion. However, I was brainwashed into religious extremism (not by my parents thankfully). Ever since snapping out of it, I've always preferred to keep it to myself. Forcing beliefs have never created anything good. 

Oops tagged the wrong person. Apologies.some of my posts were from my cellphone.

No problem. Vgchartz mobile can be a mess



DevilRising on 02 July 2017
o_O.Q said:

it does because without god objective morality cannot exist

 

 

That's kind of silly. Of course it can. There is such a thing a "Universal Morality", aka "Killing is wrong", "Rape is wrong", etc. It's universal because most cultures in the world recognize these things, making it universal. The only way that morality becomes "relative", is in gray area issues, surprinsingly, where differences in religion arise, such as Islam thinking it's "immoral" of women to have their heads uncovered, or Jews and Muslims thinking that it's "immoral" to eat certain foods or foods prepared a certain way.





But as for whether or not it's important to know if there IS a "God", or "Souls", etc., or not, I would say the answer to any intellectual should be: YES. Even if you're an atheist, it would be very important to know whether or not your belief that gods/souls DON'T exist, is correct, right? And if they DO exist, I would think any thinking mind would want to know that for a verified fact. It's the kind of thing that would be nice to know.