Just gonna say the Gamecube controller was missing a few things the other controllers had (analog buttons, L3/R3, four shoulder buttons, a "select" button) but that right C-section stick functioned as well as any other analog stick....

That's a really good example.  Were consumers wrong to say that they had no interest in Kinect?  No, of course not.  They have every right to express their preference.

If there is anything that I have learned during my time in business, it's that the customer is not wrong about what they want.  Demand is the factor around which business usually revolves.  Microsoft, to their credit, realized this (after wrongly thinking they could dictate to consumers what they wanted).

If there is a market for a Switch TV then there is a market for a Switch TV.  There is no "wrong" in that.  Obviously, Nintendo doesn't have to explore that market but that doesn't mean consumers can't want what they want.  That the current Switch design is a hybrid means nothing at all.  

It's like saying it would be silly for a 3DS to not have 3D--a feature Nintendo themselves removed when they launched the 2DS.

Huh, I can't see it for some reason..

How is stuff like Switch TV not constructive feedback? Like it or not there are people who don't want the handheld part of the Switch and would much rather have a home console only version (the reverse is almost certainly true too). So would that cause extra people who may not be buying the Switch now to buy it? Decent chance of it.

Would that help alleviate the stock problems? I've heard that the parts for the screen and/or joycons are the parts that are causing production issues, so a version that doesn't need them... yeah, that would help the stock problems. More consoles on shelves and being sold can only be a good thing...

We'd see them create a $1000 Switch with a 5 minute battery life and a GTX 1070. 

I don't think that's the case. Well sure, maybe for games like GTA, but basically every other game could fit on a miniDVD (or the proprietary media GC used).

Finally, all this talk is irrelevant. At least in my country (and most of Europe), people don'e even know what a Nintendo or XBox is. They go to stores wanting to purchase a Playstation. Heck, they might as well not know that it's made by Sony. 

To sum up, Nintendo is either going to be different, or completely irrelevant. You could argue that they pidgeonholed themselves into this, but the point still stands.

^ I disagree that this is a bad move.

Its smart, if your in a bidding war for part with apple and other phone makers.... make a device that still a console that doesnt require those parts.

Its a smart move, and it ll also give consumers choice. They can choose if they want a portable switch, or a homeconsole only version (thats cheaper).

Sign me up for a 199$ Switch-tv (thats just looks like the switch dock), but comes without the joy-cons (rumble motors), screen, NAND, batteries, ect.

It just needs a pro controller + a normal 500 GB HDD, and could be sold cheaper than the current switch.

It would play all the same games, just at Switch docked mode.

I wonder what you would have said near the launch of the the 3DS if someone had predicted the 2DS would be available in a couple of years.

I'm pretty sure a TV dedicated Switch will become available as the system ripens and Nintendo looks for a way to goose sales with a cheaper alternative.  Not really a question of "if" but "when?"  It won't happen anytime soon because it would obviously gut its whole marketing strategy that's working incredibly well.

What are "hardcore gamers", by the way ?

But can we certainly say that the general consumer doesn't want to use the Switch as a portable?

The Switch TV actually wasn't as bad of an idea as I originally stated. I will admit I was harsh on it. 

The actual conversation for the thread was rather interesting, and people did present how it would fold out within the next several years. Besides my typical snarky remarks, the only issues I have regarding it is its success, additional features, and how they'll deal with handheld-only games. The handheld only problem is minor, but how much it sells would answer how big the handheld aspect of the Switch is.

Anyways, I would like to apologize for coming off rude. As terrible as the second/third points are, I certainly could've presented it better. Oh well.

Don't forget the system should have a UHD Blu Ray drive and a HDDVD drive!

If you could make it be $150 too that'd be great, other wise it's no day one from me Nintendo!

We can't say anything for certain either way without analytical data.  What I'm pretty sure of, though, is that here in the United States there are many adult gamers who don't have much desire for a handheld gaming device.  We drive wherever we go and aren't going to take another device with us on the off-chance we have to wait somewhere.

No problem.  Personally, I would not have had nearly as much of an issue with this thread except for the Switch TV thing.  Also, I predicted a minimum of 40M for the Wii U so I can't say much, either.

I don't think that's the case. Well sure, maybe for games like GTA, but basically every other game could fit on a miniDVD (or the proprietary media GC used).

Finally, all this talk is irrelevant. At least in my country (and most of Europe), people don'e even know what a Nintendo or XBox is. They go to stores wanting to purchase a Playstation. Heck, they might as well not know that it's made by Sony. 

To sum up, Nintendo is either going to be different, or completely irrelevant. You could argue that they pidgeonholed themselves into this, but the point still stands.