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ArchangelMadzz said:
The Fury said:

So in terms of games, you get a digital version of the game when you purchase a physical disc copy. Sell that game and the digital version won't go with the disc, it stays with you. If all things happen as they should, due to this, digital only games will go down in price as there isn't the idea you get both physical and digital copies. 

I don't really see that working, if I want a game I can buy the game, then sell the game but keep the game? 

Yes, it's far fetched as games companies like money. That digital copy is tied to your account/PS4 anyway. Uninstall it and as you no longer have the install disc, you've lost it.

there is never going to be a perfect system whereby you buy a physical copy and are able to play without the disc due to licencing and online requirements.



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ArchangelMadzz said:

No you can't sell the disc after you've decided to do this. If you decide to buy a game digitally you can't trade it in and nor can you in this scenario. 

I see, so essentially, let's say you buy a game and end up loving it. You wouldn't sell it anyway so do the 'thing' and keep it forever without the need for a disc. If you don't do it, you can sell the game anytime you want. Makes sense, might be hard to implement though.



Hmm, pie.

VGPolyglot said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Then in this scenario don't do it. It's an option. 

Also it's not the same way as you don't need to be always online. 

I highly doubt it'd be an option. It'd probably become mandatory, much like how for the XB1 it wasn't going to be an option.

I'm talking about my scenario and my proposal on how this could work for everyone. Not how companies will probably do this. It's a thought experiment "This is probably never going to happen but I would definitely love this. "



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aLkaLiNE said:
Zkuq said:

There doesn't seem to be any 'untying' in his idea. The disc is tied to the console forever.

Then that completely defeats the purpose of physical. We just came full circle on microsofts thought process for the xb1 reveal. I'm not seeing the overwhelming benefit here over just going digital (except maybe for Uk users who have to pay higher for digital but that seems more like an exception)

I thought so too, but his idea is pretty flexible. Just to be clear, trying the disc to a console is fully optional. One copy can act as either physical or digital, which means there's no need for separate physically sold physical and digital copies. I mean, the other option would be to sell digital codes physically in addition to selling traditional discs. I think that's the practical approach, but at the same time, it's really inflexible. You're stuck with the method you chose.

What if you bought a game, expecing it to be good and something you want to keep? Of course you'd buy the digital version. Now what if they game turned out bad? You can't just sell it because it's not possible. Or conversely what if you buy a game, expecting to sell it later, but deciding to keep it instead? That's not much of a problem, but if you prefer digital, you now have a physical copy and trading it for a digital copy is bound to take some extra effort and cost some extra money. If every physically sold copy acts as either a physical copy or a digital copy, there's no problem.



The Fury said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I don't really see that working, if I want a game I can buy the game, then sell the game but keep the game? 

Yes, it's far fetched as games companies like money. That digital copy is tied to your account/PS4 anyway. Uninstall it and as you no longer have the install disc, you've lost it.

there is never going to be a perfect system whereby you buy a physical copy and are able to play without the disc due to licencing and online requirements.

It just sounds pretty strange to buy a game for $60 sell it for $30 and still have the game. Someone then buys that copy for $30 cause they can't have it digitally. Then no extra money has been made? 



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Zkuq said:
aLkaLiNE said:

Then that completely defeats the purpose of physical. We just came full circle on microsofts thought process for the xb1 reveal. I'm not seeing the overwhelming benefit here over just going digital (except maybe for Uk users who have to pay higher for digital but that seems more like an exception)

I thought so too, but his idea is pretty flexible. Just to be clear, trying the disc to a console is fully optional. One copy can act as either physical or digital, which means there's no need for separate physically sold physical and digital copies. I mean, the other option would be to sell digital codes physically in addition to selling traditional discs. I think that's the practical approach, but at the same time, it's really inflexible. You're stuck with the method you chose.

What if you bought a game, expecing it to be good and something you want to keep? Of course you'd buy the digital version. Now what if they game turned out bad? You can't just sell it because it's not possible. Or conversely what if you buy a game, expecting to sell it later, but deciding to keep it instead? That's not much of a problem, but if you prefer digital, you now have a physical copy and trading it for a digital copy is bound to take some extra effort and cost some extra money. If every physically sold copy acts as either a physical copy or a digital copy, there's no problem.

I like how you summed that scenario up.

It's a shame this probably wont ever happen. 



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That totally blows that digital costs more than physical the UK. So counterintuitive. As this is a fairly localized issue, I'm thinking console maufacturers won't be giving this much thought. Of course, choice is good. So, Bob's your uncle. I hope it it happens. As for the general tone of the thread overall:



                                                                                                                       

                                                                                                            


                                                                                           

 

I think I get it after looking at all the posts. But I'm still not 100%. And hey, I found a new avatar.



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ugh.... Meh. No. Just no. It's a bad idea. That would ruin the reselling of physical copies because it would be invalidating a certain amount of them when people link them to their account. Also, video game companies would likely just take that as a cue to go digital only. You can't have the best of both worlds without something of the good being left out.

If you want to play digital copies of games, deal with the pros and cons of that. People that are like me will deal with the pros and cons of physical copies.

I hate when people come up with dumb ass ideas that always turn into me having to sacrifice something (or lead up to that) for their idea to work. People need to learn how to be more pragmatic with their ideas.



Aeolus451 said:
ugh.... Meh. No. Just no. It's a bad idea. That would ruin the reselling of physical copies because it would be invalidating a certain amount of them when people link them to their account. Also, video game companies would likely just take that as a cue to go digital only. You can't have the best of both worlds without something of the good being left out.

If you want to play digital copies of games, deal with the pros and cons of that. People that are like me will deal with the pros and cons of physical copies.

I hate when people come up with dumb ass ideas that always turn into me having to sacrifice something (or lead up to that) for their idea to work. People need to learn how to be more pragmatic with their ideas.

Woah man it is as you mentioned just an idea.

But inn this scenario you don't have to sacrifice anything and carry on as normal as a physical owner. This is just my way of complaining about the overinflated digital prices here in the UK. 



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Aeolus451 said:
ugh.... Meh. No. Just no. It's a bad idea. That would ruin the reselling of physical copies because it would be invalidating a certain amount of them when people link them to their account. Also, video game companies would likely just take that as a cue to go digital only. You can't have the best of both worlds without something of the good being left out.

If you want to play digital copies of games, deal with the pros and cons of that. People that are like me will deal with the pros and cons of physical copies.

I hate when people come up with dumb ass ideas that always turn into me having to sacrifice something (or lead up to that) for their idea to work. People need to learn how to be more pragmatic with their ideas.

Woah man it is as you mentioned just an idea.

But inn this scenario you don't have to sacrifice anything and carry on as normal as a physical owner. This is just my way of complaining about the overinflated digital prices here in the UK. 

haha. I didn't mean that to be taken very seriously or in league with that bolded part. I'm very protective of my favored hobby. I don't want anything to mess with it so I can kinda snip at anything that might hurt it, even ideas. I guess I made it sound too strong. I can understand about the overpricing though.