So the sheep are reviewers following gamers with opinions? Well I guess I learned something new for the day!

John formed his own opinion from play time, though. Reviewers got early copies and had similar sentiments. But forget all that - if they're all easily impressed, what other games have these two beat in a significant way? 

NobleTeam360 said: Honestly, graphics aren't something I get "blown-away" by, both games the OP mentions look good but that hasn't spoiled me from playing other games or wanting to wait until PS5. but hey, you obviously put a heavy importance on graphics; if that's really how you feel then so be it.

Graphics and importance are mutually exclusive in my world and not really relevant to what I'm saying. I just didn't get what made him (and others) so easily impressed when the general consensus of both games is that they are the top of their respective classes. I would agree if we were talking about a game (or games) not considered for visual supremacy.

Hellblade proves that there's still plenty of life left in the gen and that games will surely top Uncharted 4 and Horizon before all is done.

Eh, not all game devs chase that type of visual look. Often times, it pays to put those resources elsewhere.

True about people being impressionable.

I don't see why anyone should consider Horizon's graphics to be mindblowingly great. For example, you walk towards the branches of a tree and then right through them with no reaction whatsoever. The same holds true for all kinds of foliage, the sole exception being the tall grass that is used for the stealth aspects of the game. Another example is that wind makes Aloy's hair clip through her ears and cheeks. That it can rain inside a cave is also a bit strange.

Basically, Horizon has the same shortcomings in its graphics that other games have, in some aspects (like foliage reacting to the player) it lags behind games on older hardware.

Great graphics are something like a stone being tossed into the water and causing a realistic ripple effect. Similarly, if you fantasize about next gen graphics, you wouldn't only think of water reacting in an appropriate manner, but all kinds of things that can be touched. Improved textures and some flashy special effects are par for the course, they don't make games look like PS5 level.

True about people being impressionable.

I don't see why anyone should consider Horizon's graphics to be mindblowingly great. For example, you walk towards the branches of a tree and then right through them with no reaction whatsoever. The same holds true for all kinds of foliage, the sole exception being the tall grass that is used for the stealth aspects of the game. Another example is that wind makes Aloy's hair clip through her ears and cheeks. That it can rain inside a cave is also a bit strange.

Basically, Horizon has the same shortcomings in its graphics that other games have, in some aspects (like foliage reacting to the player) it lags behind games on older hardware.

Great graphics are something like a stone being tossed into the water and causing a realistic ripple effect. Similarly, if you fantasize about next gen graphics, you wouldn't only think of water reacting in an appropriate manner, but all kinds of things that can be touched. Improved textures and some flashy special effects are par for the course, they don't make games look like PS5 level.