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sc94597 said:
Soundwave said:
It's pretty good, but NES + SNES even N64 era in a lot of ways >>>> today. This is better than the Wii or Wii U eras though.

"in a long time?" The NES and SNES released before I was born. I was three years old when the N64 released. 

Yeah, kinda sucks for you my man. NES/SNES/N64 era ... even early GameCube era was really the best.  

Like I said above, look at all they showed at E3 2003 ... and that was a show infamous for Nintendo fans being outraged and dissapointed just because Pac-Man VS., so they showed 1 dissapointed game admist like 10 other killer titles with some impressive 3rd party exclusives, a brand new Mario Kart, and people were still upset, lol. 

We were spoiled, we didn't know how good we had it back then. 



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Soundwave said:
sc94597 said:

"in a long time?" The NES and SNES released before I was born. I was three years old when the N64 released. 

Yeah, kinda sucks for you my man. NES/SNES/N64 era ... even early GameCube era was great. 

Like I said above, look at all they showed at E3 2003 ... and that was a show infamous for Nintendo fans being outraged and dissapointed just because Pac-Man VS., so they showed 1 dissapointed game admist like 10 other killer titles with some impressive 3rd party exclusives, a brand new Mario Kart, and people were still upset, lol. 

We were spoiled, we didn't know how good we had it. 

My first console was a SNES anyway, with a bunch of games I didn't have to wait for. My mom got it as a gift from someone before I was born and we'd play together from a young age. I grew up playing both PS1 and N64, and then PS2 and GC, then all three consoles in the 7th Generation (but mostly transitioned to PC gaming.) 



sc94597 said:
Soundwave said:

Yeah, kinda sucks for you my man. NES/SNES/N64 era ... even early GameCube era was great. 

Like I said above, look at all they showed at E3 2003 ... and that was a show infamous for Nintendo fans being outraged and dissapointed just because Pac-Man VS., so they showed 1 dissapointed game admist like 10 other killer titles with some impressive 3rd party exclusives, a brand new Mario Kart, and people were still upset, lol. 

We were spoiled, we didn't know how good we had it. 

Nope, my first console was a SNES anyway, with a bunch of games I didn't have to wait for. My mom got it as a gift before I was born and we'd play together from a young age. I grew up playing both PS1 and N64, and then PS2 and GC, then all three consoles in the 7th Generation (but mostly transitioned to PC gaming.) 

If you were too young to not remember most of the 90s, you missed Nintendo's hey-day, 90s and early 2000s was the best for Nintendo. Today is not bad, but it's nowhere close to those days. 

Even this year really if it wasn't for being able to take several Wii U games and repackage them for Switch, the library would be a lot thinner. 



Soundwave said:

It's pretty good, but NES + SNES even N64 era in a lot of ways >>>> today. This is better than the Wii or Wii U eras though.

We didn't know how good we had it in the 90s/early 2000s ... like people complain like crazy about E3 2003 because Miyamoto showed Pac-Man VS. (lol), but that show still had Mario Kart: Double Dash, Resident Evil 4, Link In Soul Calibur 2, Final Fantasy: CC, Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes, F-Zero GX, Metroid: Zero Mission for GBA ... I imagine Nintendo fans today would be over the moon with a show like that. 

N64 era is the most over glorified era in Nintendos existance. System had a low number of great games over a long span, wouldnt surprise me one bit if they Switch has it beat in terms of great games at the end of 2017.

N64 was a total lackluster. Especially 3 months in to it's existance.

NES+SNES era though, Switch still got leaps to hit that stride those systems had.

 



Soundwave said:
sc94597 said:

Nope, my first console was a SNES anyway, with a bunch of games I didn't have to wait for. My mom got it as a gift before I was born and we'd play together from a young age. I grew up playing both PS1 and N64, and then PS2 and GC, then all three consoles in the 7th Generation (but mostly transitioned to PC gaming.) 

If you were too young to remember most of the 90s, you missed Nintendo's hey-day, 90s and early 2000s was the best for Nintendo. Today is not bad, but it's nowhere close to those days. 

Even this year really if it wasn't for being able to take several Wii U games and repackage them for Switch, the library would be a lot thinner. 

One thing to consider, of course, is the burden of 3D and then high-quality assets/animation/cinematics/voice-acting had on game development. 2D games with no voice-acting are really simple to make quickly, and there were few creative limits since most things hadn't been done before, and everything felt new. These days, game development requires a lot of manpower and resources. So I doubt any modern platform can match quantity while maintaining quality. As for quality alone, Super Metroid is still the best game of all time in my opinion, but then my top five spans all three decades pretty evenly. 






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Mbolibombo said:
Soundwave said:

It's pretty good, but NES + SNES even N64 era in a lot of ways >>>> today. This is better than the Wii or Wii U eras though.

We didn't know how good we had it in the 90s/early 2000s ... like people complain like crazy about E3 2003 because Miyamoto showed Pac-Man VS. (lol), but that show still had Mario Kart: Double Dash, Resident Evil 4, Link In Soul Calibur 2, Final Fantasy: CC, Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes, F-Zero GX, Metroid: Zero Mission for GBA ... I imagine Nintendo fans today would be over the moon with a show like that. 

N64 era is the most over glorified era in Nintendos existance. System had a low number of great games over a long span, wouldnt surprise me one bit if they Switch has it beat in terms of great games at the end of 2017.

N64 was a total lackluster. Especially 3 months in to it's existance.

NES+SNES era though, Switch still got leaps to hit that stride those systems had.

 

Nintendo had a game of the year candidate for every year in the 90s, I think we forget that now, but 

1990 - Super Mario 3, 1991 - Super Mario World, 1992 - Zelda: LttP or Street Fighter II (exclusive), 1993 - Star Fox, 1994 - Donkey Kong Country, 1995 - Yoshi's Island or DKC2, 1996 - Super Mario 64, 1997 - GoldenEye, 1998 - Zelda: OoT, '99 is a little weaker, but it's also the start of the Pokemon craze in the West. 

We're talking like industry top tier games, every year Nintendo was either on top or near to it and they were breaking ground all the time in the 90s. EAD and Rare were the two best console devs on the planet. 

Today ... it's rather quaint by comparison. Breath of the Wild (2017) and Super Mario Galaxy 2 (2010) are maybe the two games they've had recently that would seriously contend for GOTY and those are 7 long years apart. 



Soundwave said:
Mbolibombo said:

N64 era is the most over glorified era in Nintendos existance. System had a low number of great games over a long span, wouldnt surprise me one bit if they Switch has it beat in terms of great games at the end of 2017.

N64 was a total lackluster. Especially 3 months in to it's existance.

NES+SNES era though, Switch still got leaps to hit that stride those systems had.

 

Nintendo had a game of the year candidate for every year in the 90s, I think we forget that now, but 

1990 - Super Mario 3, 1991 - Super Mario World, 1992 - Zelda: LttP or Street Fighter II (exclusive), 1993 - Star Fox, 1994 - Donkey Kong Country, 1995 - Yoshi's Island or DKC2, 1996 - Super Mario 64, 1997 - GoldenEye, 1998 - Zelda: OoT, '99 is a little weaker, but it's also the start of the Pokemon craze in the West. 

We're talking like industry top tier games, every year Nintendo was either on top or near to it and they were breaking ground all the time in the 90s. EAD and Rare were the two best console devs on the planet. 

Today ... it's rather quaint by comparison. Breath of the Wild (2017) and Super Mario Galaxy 2 (2010) are maybe the two games they've had recently that would seriously contend for GOTY and those are 7 long years apart. 

Not denying the top titles of the N64. They are there, they were just sparse... Nintendo definately beasted during the 90's and late 80's in terms of greatest releases though.

I think you are selling some games from the 200's and on short in terms of Game of the year - There was Smash Bros Melee in 01, Wind Waker in 03, Twilight Princess in 06, Mario Galaxy in 07, Smash 4 in '14 that definately belong in the discussion.



sc94597 said:

It wasn't too long ago that people were complaining about droughts on Wii U and this was very much also true of the original Wii. This year alone we are getting/got The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (probably the best TLoZ game for many), Splatoon 2, Arms, Xenoblade 2, Super Mario Oddyssey (looks to potentially be the best Mario game in a while), and Mario Kart 8: Deluxe as big titles on Switch from Nintendo. 

We have a future of Metroid, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Kirby, and Yoshi to look forward to already. We have no idea what Retro is working on. Smash bros is implictly guaranteed to be in the works too. 

It seems as if Nintendo is touching upon all of their main titles, and making everyone happy. Furthermore, there is a potential that marginalized Nintendo IP's that don't compete with Mario, Zelda, and Smash Bros might make a comeback and be given another chance. 

I am fully convinced that the unified library decision was one of the best Nintendo has made. I was reminiscing about how the only thing to be "excited" about as Nintendo fans in 2008 when this happened was that we were thrown an unintended Pikmin 3 announcement behind closed doors, and the game released on Wii U anyway. Times were that bad then. 

It is crazy how much Nintendo has changed in nine years. Hopefully they continue to even after this success. 

Nintendo lost Monster Hunter World.



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Out of all the eras I would say this is probably the potential best, the 3DS having one of the best swan songs of any platforms with the Switch unifying the library onto one platform in future. I highlighted in the E3 thread of the Switch's progress so far:

March - BOTW
April - MK8DX
May - Minecraft
June - Arms
July - Splatoon 2
August - M+R, MHXX (in Japan)
September - Pokken DX
October - Mario Odyssey, Skyrim
November - Fire Emblem Warriors, Zelda DLC, Rocket League
December - Xenoblade 2 if not the previous month

2018

Kirby
Yoshi
Fire Emblem
Metroid Prime 4 (until clarified)
Pokemon Switch (until clarified)
No More Heroes 3
Dragon Quest XI
Monster Hunter XX (West)
Monster Hunter 5 or Portable 5 (going by the the same leak that revealed world and XX)
SMTV
Octopath


Unknown Factors

Retro's Project
Pikmin World

Expected IPs in Future

Smash (looking to most likely be Smash 5 at this point)
Animal Crossing

The aren't many platforms that have a first year like this with a follow up year that could be just as good while still having a number of potential tricks in the bag. The 9th gen (don't care about the usual arguments) could be the best era for a Nintendo platform.



Mnementh said:

Nintendo lost Monster Hunter World.

They still have MH5 or Portable 5 according to the same leak under that it's not really an issue.