I'm an XB first guy. I picked up XB1 near launch, and got into the PS4 universe 3 years later, with the Pro. I have sufficient disposable income to comfortably afford a $500 console. I figure that puts me right in the target market for this system. But, without any exclusives to play on it, and a PS4 Pro available to play multi-plats, I don't see how I'm going to justify the purchase of XBX this year.

Add in the Switch competing for hardware dollars, at $150 less than XBX, and it is hard to see exactly how this system will sell many units in 2017.

LurkerJ said: When you look at the conference as a whole, this is the least of Xbox's problems

The conference was pretty good in terms of pacing and content amount.... its problem was most was 3rd party (multi platform) or Launch Exclusive (which I guess means it comes out on PS4)... and there wasnt a lot else to shout about (nothing really new in terms of 1st party exclusive, MS normal problem). I just dont see it pushing console sales, 4k at that price, when I dont have a 4k TV, but also why wouldnt i just stick with PS4...

Switch is $200 less than Xbox One X which is why Switch will keep selling out and X will not sell.

£500...

The price is fine. It's supposed to be the Lexus in the line-up, not the Toyota. It's for those who don't mind paying a "premium price" for a luxury product. It was never intended to out-sell the base model.

Honestly, if they just made another console at the same level as the PS4 Pro, it would be an empty gesture. No one would leave the Playstation ecosystem for a side-grade. With this, though, they might pull away a few gamers who value resolution and "power" above everything else.

499$ was expected, but that was the point where I knew that MS wont gain any ground over Sony, not even the US. Also the retail exclusives for this Q4 seems a bit bare as well. I am now really curious if Sony will leave the PS4 in auto-pilot or go all-out tomorrow.

The machine looks awesome, but that ammount of money for a mid-gen upgrade 4 years into the console cycle is way to much.

Yea but the thing with PC is that the enhancements comes regardless of needing a lot of developer support. What I mean by that is that I can go back to fairly old games and run them at say 4k or 1440p. Where as with consoles, it is all over the place, at least with ps4 pro so far. With the One X, it is more standard like with super sampling and AF but even then, will all games get ultra quality enhancements or is it just xbox one graphics settings at 4k and just basic enhancements at 1080p?

Leaving it up to developers is what makes the price really urghhh worthy cause what we saw with the pro is that the developers really didn't put much effort and that includes Sony's own developers. At least with PC, I know exactly what I will be getting.

This isn't for the mass consumer. Phil said last year in an interview that the vast majority of sales will come from the S model. This is for the hardcore ppl who value specs above anything else.

Not that it would make a huge difference but for $499 it should have used 14nm chips instead of 16nm chips well at least its even smaller then the X1 S.

Too expensive... and not 1 good reason why I should get a xbox was given (imo).

I think this will mostly sell to those that already own Xbox One's.
Dont think this will effect PS4 sales at all tbh.

Makes me laugh thinking about all those "PS4 ponys are scared, Scorpio is comeing!" ect type of posts.
Lmao and all those twitter people with M's in their name.

Think it ends up selling less than the PS4pro.