The entire "winning" E3 is so ridiculously subjective.

I Chose "Knack 2 exclusivity!" because it's hard to take this seriously.

What exactly making Nintendo this new powerhourse.  They are still pretty much releasing the same games people ignored with the WiiU on the switch.  If anything, what Nintendo shows is that you just need combination of the right hardware with your current lineup of software to gain momentun.  There is nothing MS can do this gen to change their situation.  Even if they were to win E3 with all the hopes and dreams of the hardcore PS gamer they would still not win this gen.  Its not about winning E3 or even winning this gen, its building a strong foundation for success.  If anything, I am sure MS would just love to win back the loss 360 marketshare first and then build from there.

Ah CRAP! I have fated these institutions to doom with my spell check.

I personally believe its too late for ms to win the conference being that i dont believe they are really trying to secure amazing exclusives or develop new fresh ips. I remember how fucking awesome the 360 was back in the day when they had the system selling exclusives that i wanted such as Mass Effect, Bioshock, Lost Planet, Lost Odyssey, Gears (they still have it but its no longer fresh to me) and others i cant remember. But holy shit was i onboard with ms back then, not to mention they were super friendly with indie devs and had an amazing open platform for them to work on. When xbox 1 was announced and i saw the direction they were going with the always online and outrageous drm shit as well as them constantly pushing a peripheral that was not working as advertized i completely lost interest. Their decisions to try and block game sharing and re-selling felt like a fucking slap in the face. On top of that ps4 was morepowerful and proven to run more games at higher res than xbox. Power alone isnt a system seller but sony clearly had the better exclusives as well.

So yea, i do appreciate phil spencer and respect where hes going in terms of giving power to those who want it and im quite sure its going to destroy pro in that regard so good on you ms but they dropped the ball on killer games i want to play and showed how slimy they are willing to be to make money so i believe in the long run, its over for them....at least "this gen".

*Rant over

Actually I think we are agreeing.
 
1) This "E3 winner" thing is very sujective and some people do not even realize it. And you saw some people coming here with "that's a fact", "you cannot deny it", blah blah blah.

2) I never said we should / cannot discuss about we are disapointed or liking any conference or how Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo could have done things better or how much this or that was cool in their conference... I was only talking about those "who won E3" arguments... And for that and the polls, yes I believe Sony will be ahead no matter what (because of the userbase). Again, while this website may not be the best sample, you can see it in EVERY possible polls what I mean :). But as you said it (and I'm trying to), the "who won E3" does not matter at all for both fan bases. If you get what you want and liked the presentation for your platform it is all that matter at the end.

So I agree with you. Microsoft or Sony conference can be good or bad to anyone (and I certainly understand how Microsoft conference may be bad for someone who do not like their vision) but at the end those "omg [whateverconsolemakerhere] won the E3" thread/polls are largely subjectives and based on fan reactions in my oppinion. 

Try to at least read the whole text before to reply and quote me (the non-sense for isntance) completly out of the place.

At the end, it does not change the facts that:

- I have a Play Station Four, I do not play it often (bought it for one game) and I watch the Sony conference every year.
- I do not find Sony conference amazingly ridiculously awesome like you seem to do because my interest is very limited and they are also showing a lot of multiplatforms. I do not find them bad either.
- I find Microsoft conferences very good in general as this is what I'm looking for.

Sorry if hurt your feelings as you seem to become just arrogant with your anwsers now. I'm glad you think there is "winner" at E3 and pretty sure you will find the next Sony conference to be the best in year no matter what. Good for you :)

The main difference between you and I, I guess. Is that liking Microsoft more does not make me hate Sony. And while my interrest are not so high for their gaming platform, I still own one (like almost all console) and I'm still curious and while being limited, there are some stuff that I'm looking for (same went for the Play Station Three; I bought it for one or two games). I do not hate Sony and saying that I do not find their conference amazing is different than bitching them.

But how with less and less exclusives?

• All future Xbox One exclusive titles will also launch on PC simultaneously.
• Scorpio launches at $349/£299
• New Perfect Dark game, Halo 6, Banjo Kazooe, Alan Wake 2 and Lost Oddessy 2.
• Announce new high quality AAA/AA IP's, first party
• And or revive and old IP from third party favourites IP

Though I have a feeling its going to be like.... announce Scorpio price ( $449 ), Forza 7 reveal, and then a Halo 6 CGI trailer

Otherwise its competing with the wild card that's Nintendo; with their in house games.. and maybe some surprise announcements - probably Metroid and Donkey Kong.

Then there's Sony; with God of War, The Last of Us 2, Detroit and probably 1 or 2 new AA/AAA IP's. And abundance of new Japanese exlusives.

Exclusives do not win you install base.  Having a bunch of high quality games in different genres does.  Exclusives are only as good as their performance and this year happens to be a damn good one for Sony because a lot of the Japanese exclusives they have gotten just because they are a Japanese console.  This has always been a strength for Sony and probably will be for the foreseeable future.  The thing for MS to do is first gain back either the hardware edge or just make sure they do not  make the same mistake with the X1.  Second is to make sure their top franchises are polished solid top notch games to keep their base and probably gain back some defectors.  The next is to secure to make their system the easiest system to code for so that the many PC games that are release also make it to their system.  Last is to build their catalog of quality software.  MS does not have to beat Nintendo or Sony to be successful but they do have to make their ecosystem compelling enough for development and customer support. 

E3 has never been a make or break for any of these console OEMs.