Tulipanzo said:
Imaginedvl said:
"lol". I do.
I mean I'm sorry but you are proving my point. I can tell you that Microsoft fans have a very different oppinion than Sony enthusiasts and I have hard time to comprehend how some people really believe they are "right" instead of understanding that at the end it is all relative and subjective.
So yes, you can argue as much as you want :) Like the majority of the Sony enthusiasts or anti Microsoft, who are "not interrested" you defintely think Sony's E3 are close to heaven... While Microsoft enthusiasts have usually a very different oppinion. I personally found the majority of Sony's E3 extremly boring, and the reasons are simples, I do not care about their games and consoles... Guess what, same goes the other way :)
I can tell you that other than maybe 2015 where it has nothing to do with content at the end, the majority of Xbox fans will tell you Microsoft enthusiasts will tell you Microsoft E3s were the best.
I mean this is dead end argument and you are just proving out our point here anyway. At the end all conference will be the best for the ones who are expecting something out of it for themselves and getting it... Sony fans do not care at all about Microsoft and vice-et-versa... Both side will find their conference (unless it is really really really bad which is never the case) to be the best and this is simple logic.
At the moment the Play Station Four vs Xbox One usebase is like what? 65%-35%, well I can garantee you the results wil be about the same in "who won the E3" polls... Again, simple logic and nothing objective at the end :)
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I get your point, who "wins" E3 is very much subjective and will undoubtely be coloured by your preference.However the fact that it can't be discussed objectively doesn't mean that it can't be discussed.
It also doesn't mean that the entire community is divided into camps that will exclusively award the "best show" to their own brand each and every time.
Now, you may very well disagree with me there, and that's fine, to each its own. I'm sure you could argue that, as an XBox fan, it connected to you more.
However saying that Sony's next conference will be liked by more people because they sold more units, and that consequently there's no use discussing E3, seems like a preemptive way of saying that people won't like it.
Yet, you claim, XBox enthusiasts will like it, which isn't so great. You're implicitly admitting that, unless you're already on board with Microsoft and the direction the brand is taking, you won't like it. That this has been going on for a few years should make you pause.
It will ony convince people that require no further convincing. That might be bad.
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Actually I think we are agreeing.
1) This "E3 winner" thing is very sujective and some people do not even realize it. And you saw some people coming here with "that's a fact", "you cannot deny it", blah blah blah.
2) I never said we should / cannot discuss about we are disapointed or liking any conference or how Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo could have done things better or how much this or that was cool in their conference... I was only talking about those "who won E3" arguments... And for that and the polls, yes I believe Sony will be ahead no matter what (because of the userbase). Again, while this website may not be the best sample, you can see it in EVERY possible polls what I mean :). But as you said it (and I'm trying to), the "who won E3" does not matter at all for both fan bases. If you get what you want and liked the presentation for your platform it is all that matter at the end.
So I agree with you. Microsoft or Sony conference can be good or bad to anyone (and I certainly understand how Microsoft conference may be bad for someone who do not like their vision) but at the end those "omg [whateverconsolemakerhere] won the E3" thread/polls are largely subjectives and based on fan reactions in my oppinion.
