I also found this on NeoGaf, but have no clue how accurate it is. However, I find it interesting that this is contradictory to what larry posted. "Cinema Conversion Automatic, DVD Wide Display Letterbox, DVD Upscaler Full Screen, BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI) Automatic. If people are saying it passes the tests, they are wrong. Vertical detail - flickering. 5/10 Jaggies 1 - Pass. 5/5 Jaggies 2 - Partial. Fails on lower bar. 3/5 Flag test - Minor jaggies visible in flag. 5/10 Picture detail. Detail is visible, but a little soft compared to other players. No ringing though. 5/10 Noise reduction. Does almost nothing. 0/10 Motion Adaptive noise reduction. Does almost nothing, causes a little smearing. 0/10 3:2 detection. Actually works! But a little slow. 5/10 Cadence detection: 2:2 - Pass. 2:2:2:4 - Flicker, fail. 2:3:3:2 - Flicker, fail. 3:2:3:2:2 - Flicker, fail. 5:5 - Pass. 6:4 - Pass. 8:7 - Pass. 3:2 - Pass. 25/40 Mixed 3:2 Horizontal. 10/10 Mixed 3:2 Vertical. 10/10 Total: 73/130 EDIT: That was HQV 1.4 btw, which should be the latest - just got it from them a couple of weeks ago." Link! - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6517920&postcount=97 Please note that I did not do these test, so dont flame me if you find contraditory numbers. However, this is many times better than the 360 upscaling. Did you hear that, the PS3 is far better than the 360 at DVD upscaling, hows that for xbot trolling. Also, these numbers may be low, but they are pretty good a far as upscaling goes. Regardless, these comparison pics look great;

sieanr was not being a troll at all, he was giving his own experience with the update, willing to offer us pics to compare tomorrow, yet larry calls him a troll, like everybody else. He's been asking for a ban for a while. As for the topic, it's already been explained that this isn't really groundbreaking stuff, as many DVD upconverters are cheap, and the 360 does a fair amount of upscaling from what I know. It's a great thing for PS3 owners, and yet another plus for the system, but I dunno what else to say...it's just an update.

Yeah I agree the onslaught doesn't come because of this or the Warhawk Beta, but it's funny to kind of watch a completely different deluded world that larry seems to be living in. I think the ban is okay actually considering larry is washimul who was perma banned, but just because he called someone a troll who clearly wasn't? He just acts like that all the time... especially with his delusional world.

 I'm, by no means, trying to make this update seem wrose than it really is. The DVD upscaling is a welcome update, and one that is, apparently, fairly good. Streaming content is cool, although I have yet to find out if this will work with my mac. But there are some welcome additions, such as bluray at 720p and 24fps.

I'm just really, really disappointed with the PS2 upscaling, but everything else is great - and free

"it's just an update."

*sigh*  Sony never wins.  Upscaling games and DVDs, improves blu-ray playback (already was one of the best blu-ray players, not that buyers care about quality apparently), remote play from any wifi location (w/ PSP), streaming media files, and the ability to change gave saves back to the PS2 (useful for backups that don't play on the PS3).  It also makes the PS3 a better DVD player than the 360 and a lot of expensive retail DVD players.

That's more than "just an update."  Come on...

sieanr, I look forward to your pictures because I'm seeing a lot of good examples so far.  I'm going to try some games out tomorrow, so I'll see for myself (I can only do 720p, though).  I would expect the smoother to work for games even at 480i/p, though.

Wow all this 760i and 1020p stuff is really confusing........and can be mixed around very easily. This is why I stay away from these arguments.

ROFL! got a great laugh out of this thread thanks all, especially you larry

Yeah. From the shots and the scaler options available, it does seem image based upscaling, not re-rendering. It's a good software scaler, that's for sure - probably better than the 360's hardware scaler. But it does not look like re-rendering.

windbane - what more exactly do you want? He also said "It's a great thing for PS3 owners, and yet another plus for the system" if you weren't selectively reading. There's just nothing much to discuss. Great for PS3 owners, a plus for the system, sure. But beyond that it isn't going to have any wider impact beyond the gamer community who already know these kinds of things about it, it's not really a widely marketable thing. What exactly are you looking for here? To actual PS3 users - any word on if it'll output 1080i for those old TVs that only do 1080i and 480p/480i?

Well I have already tried it and spoke about it with my PS3-owning colleagues in the spanish forums Apparently the upscaling is UP To 1080 p ,that means it also upscales to 720p or 1080i if that is the TV you own . I couldnt make the proof myself as I dont have HD TV yet so I cant comment on how does the upscaling work .What I can say is that you have first to activate the improvements in the options settings ,both for games and for DVD ,if you dont you wont appreciate anything obviously . More things ,the retrocompatibility has been improved ,odd because it doesnt even mention it in the license .I was able to play MGS2 Sons of Liberty and MGS3 Snake Eater and they work flawlessly .For what I hear others as Black work as well .The european retrocompatibility is nearing completion with this update ,i cant think on any big game that is left out right now . As for the multimedia home web I am still downloading some things to prepare my PC for it .It will be great to access everything from the PS3 . The PSP capabilities to access the PS3 from anywhere I dont have tried yet ,it will be difficult to try this out after all ...it would mean abandoning the house and leaving the PS3 connected in the remote play option I suppose .If someone has tried this out please tell me if its anything different . All in all the PS3 is a incredible machine I must say ,and I am more than happy with it .