Hope it comes to Xbox and Steam, they will be the prefered platforms because of best performance when scorpio launches, but else I will deff pick up the ps4 version this game sounds/looks cool :)
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shikamaru317 said:
Agreed. Namco is already releasing their Souls series on Xbox whre it sells pretty well, I see no reason why they won't release this on Xbox too, considering they've been implying it's aimed at a similar audience. Also, I just remembered that when Phil Spencer went to Japan the last time to talk to Japanese devs, he mentioned that he stopped at Namco Bandai and that he saw a new JRPG while he was in Japan, I have a feeling that was this game. He most likely convinced them to release it on XB1 while he was there. |
Thats why it baffled me people here discounting XB1 already without even checking the details of the game and basing it on the screenshot. Just because it is an anime styled game. I mean dragon ball and Naruto has an XB1 version and those are anime styled games.
It can go to Switch but saying that there's no XB1 is also unlikely.
NoCtiS_NoX said:
When I think about RPG I think PS4. The key words their is major home consoles. It's laughable that suddenly Xbone is irrelevant now and Switch has more relevance around the world. Xbone still has the advantage of userbase than switch. It could still be release to Switch yes and I never said that it won't come. I just said that PS4/Switch is unlikely more than PS4/XB1. Switch is doing great yes but the Userbase is still nowhere near XB1 WW. Switch also has yet to prove it can sell 3rd party games. And we are talking about Namco here and the Hard acton RPG. This could mean they are targetting the Dark Soul fans with this game. |
I don't discount the XB1, but you have to face some realities here. The game may be directed at a western audience TOO, but it is certainly, that it will sell most in the japanese market. This is the first market. And without a doubt XBox is nearly irrelevant there. Also the japanese market is strongly into mobile gaming, that's why I though at the first thread announcing the game PS4/Vita. As the wording is home consoles, this excludes the Vita, but leaves the Switch, which certainly can emulate the Vita experience (and more). That makes Switch more probable, as in Japan alone this game could sell well enough on Switch.
So, let's ignore Japan and look to western markets. Even in western markets the Xbox is weak in this japanese gaming experiences. Games like Persona and Nier are missing Xbox completely. Games that hit the Xbox are selling weak compared to PS. See Final Fantasy XV: on PS4 it sells 1.36M in NA and 1.6M in europe, while on XB1 only 0.53M in NA and 0.23 in europe. The western gamers liking such japanese RPGs are certainly more likely on PS4 than on XB1.
So, now look at Namcos view: the game will sell most in Japan. It will sell reasonybly well on PS4 in Japan AND in the West. It will practically sell nothing in Japan on XB1 and in the West (which probably will make up the weaker region for sales (Nier sold more than half of it's worldwide sales in Japan) it will be strongly behind PS4 (based on FF less than half in NA and less than a fifth in europe). It probably sells decently on Switch in Japan and an unknown amount in the West. It is likely that with japanese sales the Switch can match the XB1-sales in the west.
So XB1 really isn't more likely than Switch from a sales perspective (while PS4 is a no-brainer). There might be other reasons (always are), which might bend the decision in either direction. For me PS4/Switch, PS4/XB1, PS4/Switch/XB1 are all similar likely, I cannot say which side Namco tends.
Chazore said:
Can I hold that to you for the time being?. Bamco have already released multiple titles on Steam so far, it makes sense to carry on selling to that store than to suddenly stop selling to said store now. 6 Pages worth of BN published games: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?publisher=BANDAI%20NAMCO%20Entertainment |
Major home consoles. Maybe it isn't meant that restricting, in which case I would include PC. But the wording excludes Vita (a very likely platform without this wording) and PC.
| outlawauron said:
I mean, it's not like there'd be a huge difference between X1/Switch sales. X1 has the advantage of being much easier to port over. |
Is it? There does this come from?
Mnementh said:
Major home consoles. Maybe it isn't meant that restricting, in which case I would include PC. But the wording excludes Vita (a very likely platform without this wording) and PC. |
The wording these days ends up being sketchy, especially when you consider Bamco's track record of releases. When it eventually does reach Steam, the wording of the article will end up being badly translated or worded either way. At this point I don't really see bamco suddenly withholding this game, never to release it on PC, they know there is money to be made there.
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Chazore said:
The wording these days ends up being sketchy, especially when you consider Bamco's track record of releases. When it eventually does reach Steam, the wording of the article will end up being badly translated or worded either way. At this point I don't really see bamco suddenly withholding this game, never to release it on PC, they know there is money to be made there. |
True enough. Maybe it will come to PC just later, or they specifically talked towards the console crowd or this is a mistranslation. But it is all I can go with at the moment. I would mention, if the wording isn't meant that way, the Vita rises highly in probability too.
Mnementh said:
True enough. Maybe it will come to PC just later, or they specifically talked towards the console crowd or this is a mistranslation. But it is all I can go with at the moment. I would mention, if the wording isn't meant that way, the Vita rises highly in probability too. |
Yes it's all we can go with at the moment, but it's not ruling out on a future PC release. It would seem awfully silly if bamco said "never ever release this on PC, but we'll totally release the next game". It's like saying "we want money, but we kinda don't" at the same time.
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| Mnementh said: I don't discount the XB1, but you have to face some realities here. The game may be directed at a western audience TOO, but it is certainly, that it will sell most in the japanese market. This is the first market. And without a doubt XBox is nearly irrelevant there. Also the japanese market is strongly into mobile gaming, that's why I though at the first thread announcing the game PS4/Vita. As the wording is home consoles, this excludes the Vita, but leaves the Switch, which certainly can emulate the Vita experience (and more). That makes Switch more probable, as in Japan alone this game could sell well enough on Switch. So, let's ignore Japan and look to western markets. Even in western markets the Xbox is weak in this japanese gaming experiences. Games like Persona and Nier are missing Xbox completely. Games that hit the Xbox are selling weak compared to PS. See Final Fantasy XV: on PS4 it sells 1.36M in NA and 1.6M in europe, while on XB1 only 0.53M in NA and 0.23 in europe. The western gamers liking such japanese RPGs are certainly more likely on PS4 than on XB1. So, now look at Namcos view: the game will sell most in Japan. It will sell reasonybly well on PS4 in Japan AND in the West. It will practically sell nothing in Japan on XB1 and in the West (which probably will make up the weaker region for sales (Nier sold more than half of it's worldwide sales in Japan) it will be strongly behind PS4 (based on FF less than half in NA and less than a fifth in europe). It probably sells decently on Switch in Japan and an unknown amount in the West. It is likely that with japanese sales the Switch can match the XB1-sales in the west. So XB1 really isn't more likely than Switch from a sales perspective (while PS4 is a no-brainer). There might be other reasons (always are), which might bend the decision in either direction. For me PS4/Switch, PS4/XB1, PS4/Switch/XB1 are all similar likely, I cannot say which side Namco tends. |
If I am Bamco and I am trying to target the Dark Souls fan why would I choose Switch over XB which already has that userbase? Souls game is more popular in the west than the Japan which Namco is trying to target here. Hard ARPG. That is not NIer, Persona, Tales of , FF XV and etc. so those games are irrelevant if they are targetting the Souls fan. Now tell me does the Switch or even Wii U or 3DS have those type of games? Does Swtich have enough install base to cover the loss of potential sales for XB1? Do you think those DarkSoul XB1 user will buy a Switch so they can play Code Vein? What's stopping them to just purchase a PS4 which has BloodBorne and Nioh?
Code Vein as I have read all the information is like Dark Soul and Bloodborne with anime style of artwork. Just by looking at the screenshot it's dark. The Blood reminds me of BloodBorne it heals you everytime you kill an enemy. Blood enables you to power up your skills. I thnk Code Vein will apply that setup.
Also with regards with Japan. It's also possible that it will be PS4 exclusive in Japan and mulitplat WW. IMO PS4/Switch is riskier than PS4/XB1. As I said above switch doesn't have the userbase Namco is trying to target. Proven userbase and platform as oppose to New platform that doesn't have the userbase they are trying to capture. This is more likely PS4/XB1/NS or PS4/XB1 > PS4/NS.
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