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Bofferbrauer2 said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

This seems pretty crazy, I believe there's only 9 games to ever do so, and over half of those are Pokemon games. But if the Switch's install base gets to 15-20m in Japan I suppose it could happen. One thing not being factored in here is that Splatoon 3 releasing for the Switch in 2 years or so shouldn't be ruled out as a possibility, so that could cut into Splatoon 2's lifetime sales a bit.

Personally I doubt it. I expect it to get the Mario Kart/Smash treatment with just one per console

The thing is though that Splatoon 2 seems more like Splatoon 1.5 in a lot of ways. Just a lot of tweaks and polishing to the original game, not a lot of big changes, since I'm sure they wanted to get a Splatoon game out on Switch asap. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Splatoon 3 in a couple years that is more of the true evolution of the franchise. 



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HyrulianScrolls said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Personally I doubt it. I expect it to get the Mario Kart/Smash treatment with just one per console

The thing is though that Splatoon 2 seems more like Splatoon 1.5 in a lot of ways. Just a lot of tweaks and polishing to the original game, not a lot of big changes, since I'm sure they wanted to get a Splatoon game out on Switch asap. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Splatoon 3 in a couple years that is more of the true evolution of the franchise. 

I'd say they wanted it out asap to avoid any hole in the lineup for this year to avoid the infamous Wii U droughts on the Switch. Splatoon 2 was easy because not too much had to be changed on a technical standpoint from the original game, being able to retain most assets, just maybe polishing them up a bit. Otherwise there wouldn't have been any big game release between Arms and Fire Emblem Warriors/Pokkén tournament late september (don't think they knew a release date yet for Mario & rabbits at that point), so a very dry summer for the Switch.

Splatoon 3 will come, but I doubt it will come this decade



Bofferbrauer2 said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

The thing is though that Splatoon 2 seems more like Splatoon 1.5 in a lot of ways. Just a lot of tweaks and polishing to the original game, not a lot of big changes, since I'm sure they wanted to get a Splatoon game out on Switch asap. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Splatoon 3 in a couple years that is more of the true evolution of the franchise. 

I'd say they wanted it out asap to avoid any hole in the lineup for this year to avoid the infamous Wii U droughts on the Switch. Splatoon 2 was easy because not too much had to be changed on a technical standpoint from the original game, being able to retain most assets, just maybe polishing them up a bit. Otherwise there wouldn't have been any big game release between Arms and Fire Emblem Warriors/Pokkén tournament late september (don't think they knew a release date yet for Mario & rabbits at that point), so a very dry summer for the Switch.

Splatoon 3 will come, but I doubt it will come this decade

Right, it was an easy game for them to do and served the purposes of filling in gaps and getting one of Nintendo's biggest successess this decade onto a platform which will quickly have a bigger install base than Wii U ever did. Which is my point that it doesn't seem like the true sequel in a lot of ways, and they may very well have Splatoon 3 out by 2020, which would definitely still be in the Switch's lifecycle. 



Wman1996 said:
No way. 2 million seems very possible. And 5 million worldwide is pretty much a given.

I would say at least 3 considering the first one did almost 2 on the Wii U.



HyrulianScrolls said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

I'd say they wanted it out asap to avoid any hole in the lineup for this year to avoid the infamous Wii U droughts on the Switch. Splatoon 2 was easy because not too much had to be changed on a technical standpoint from the original game, being able to retain most assets, just maybe polishing them up a bit. Otherwise there wouldn't have been any big game release between Arms and Fire Emblem Warriors/Pokkén tournament late september (don't think they knew a release date yet for Mario & rabbits at that point), so a very dry summer for the Switch.

Splatoon 3 will come, but I doubt it will come this decade

Right, it was an easy game for them to do and served the purposes of filling in gaps and getting one of Nintendo's biggest successess this decade onto a platform which will quickly have a bigger install base than Wii U ever did. Which is my point that it doesn't seem like the true sequel in a lot of ways, and they may very well have Splatoon 3 out by 2020, which would definitely still be in the Switch's lifecycle. 

I think Splatoon 2 has more than enough, though, to be deemed a true sequel. Salmon Run, Legend Mode, new weapons, new stages, new merch, and a continuing story from the first game. Of course add on LAN options, improved online and local multiplayer options, can make it more of an enhanced update sequel, but nevertheless, it's still a true sequel in its own right. It's not necessarily from Smash 64 to Melee, but I'd argue it's not just a simple update since you couldn't do some of these options on Wii U due to utilizing the game pad, which sorta limited local multiplayer among other things and the recent direct, and even the previous ones, showed there are new gameplay options to make the game a sequel and not just an enhanced port like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.



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Splatoon 2 is going to sell great, but I think people are really getting carried away with just how well it's going to do. No doubt it'll do better than the first one, but by that metric, I'm thinking 6 - 7 million LT.



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Kai_Mao said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

Right, it was an easy game for them to do and served the purposes of filling in gaps and getting one of Nintendo's biggest successess this decade onto a platform which will quickly have a bigger install base than Wii U ever did. Which is my point that it doesn't seem like the true sequel in a lot of ways, and they may very well have Splatoon 3 out by 2020, which would definitely still be in the Switch's lifecycle. 

I think Splatoon 2 has more than enough, though, to be deemed a true sequel. Salmon Run, Legend Mode, new weapons, new stages, new merch, and a continuing story from the first game. Of course add on LAN options, improved online and local multiplayer options, can make it more of an enhanced update sequel, but nevertheless, it's still a true sequel in its own right. It's not necessarily from Smash 64 to Melee, but I'd argue it's not just a simple update since you couldn't do some of these options on Wii U due to utilizing the game pad, which sorta limited local multiplayer among other things and the recent direct, and even the previous ones, showed there are new gameplay options to make the game a sequel and not just an enhanced port like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

Yeah I definitely wouldn't call it an "enhanced port" like MK8D, but I still think it is more Splatoon 1.5 than Splatoon 2.  I'm sure there woud have been much more dev time for it and some true evolutions of the formula had it not been for the fact that they needed the game out when they did for the aforementioned reasons. 



It's time, guys. Splatoon 2 already sold over 2 million in Japan.

 

Mar1217 said:
maybe 2M lifetime in Japan but 5M ?! .... no way.

yeah, maybe 2 million in 6 months. There was no way for selling 5 million in such a short time...

Jranation said:

Its pulling some insane numbers in COMG right now...... For now I say around 2.5mil - 3mil LT. If the Monster Hunter, Pokemon and Animal Crossing fans gets the Switch and are also interested in this......... then OH BOY!

Well man, it's over 2 million already, and it sold over 100k last week, so unless his legs crash super hard, well, 3 million is pretty crazy, let alone 2.5 million.

Green098 said:

The Switch would need to sell well over 20 million lifetime in Japan like the 3DS which I see very achievable since it will be the only dedicated gaming handheld on the market there in the next year or so, but even then 5 million is outselling the best 3DS game in Japan Animal Crossing New Leaf which sold 4.5 million going by VGChartz numbers, so... right now as bold as I can go is it selling over 3 million in Japan but who knows, anything can happen.

By the way, Animal Crossing has sold over 5 million including digital. And Splatoon is way head of him...

SegataSanshiro said:
No. Splatoon can sell 5-6 million WW lifetime. 1 Million in japan and heck maybe even 1.5 mill in Japan. It's not going to outsell or come close to Dragon Quest or Monster Hunter numbers tho.

Was this comment about Splatoon 1, i hope? Because then this looks spot on...

Cloudman said:
There's being bold, and then... there's just being crazy.

Eh, i doubt this is either bold or crazy at this point.

Flilix said:
I hope you will turn out to be right, and the replies in this thread will be as ridiculous as these in your first Splatoon thread. However, I really doubt it. 3 million is certainly possible though, maybe even 4 million.

3 million now is impossible. Anything under 4 million is.

jason1637 said:
That's cra cra

Indeed. :D

abroZ said:
SegataSanshiro said:
No. Splatoon can sell 5-6 million WW lifetime. 1 Million in japan and heck maybe even 1.5 mill in Japan. It's not going to outsell or come close to Dragon Quest or Monster Hunter numbers tho.

Did you know Splatoon is the best selling home console game between ps4/xbone and wiiu in Japan? Did you know Splatoon sold 1.5 million units on a 3.3 million userbase (Japan)? Do you believe splatoon 2 won't sell more on switch than it did on wiiu? 

That being said, dragon Quest 7 warriors is the most sold dragon Quest game on 3ds with 1.3 million units...the first splatoon already beat it. 

Monster Hunter 4 sold 3.4 million units. I don't think splatoon 2 will surpass it but I think it can definitely get close. I think you underestimate how big splatoon is over there. 

Well, now we know Splatoon 2 will easy surpass Monster Hunter 4.

Mike321 said:
I think that's impossible even for such a surprise hit like splatoon but hey you never know

Still impossible?

NewGuy said:
lol

Best comment of the thread.

StarOcean said:
Probably closer to 2 mill.

yeah. In 6 months. Now, let's see how numbers are in 5 years.

Qwark said:
It could do 2.5 million in Japan I guess. But 5 million is a really tall order.

less than 500k to go for that "possible" 2.5 million mark.

Dr.Vita said:
Nope, that's wishful thinking imo. It's not going to happen.

"Wishful thinking" like the first game selling 1.75 million, i guess.

Pavolink said:
I expect between 2.5 - 3 M.

Still expect that?

couchmonkey said:

Except massive attach rates are sort of common on underperforming consoles.*  Actually, I just made that up, now I'll have to go check... :)  But seriously, Super Mario Galaxy didn't magically sell 25 million just because it was on a much better-selling console than Super Mario 64.

I think 5 million in Japan alone is way out there, but I do hope for Splatoon 2 to have a much better showing worldwide thanks to Switch's improved sales.  I'm thinking more like 10 million, though.

*Hmm, checked a few series like Mario, Halo, GTA and it's kind of inconclusive.  If we want to take a pretty optimistic Mario Kart type scenario for Splatoon, then 3.5-4 million might actually be feasible for Japan, that would be nice to see.  I'd be shocked to see >4 million.

Well, now we know for sure it won't sell under 4 million.

DaAndy said:
it will not even closely reach 5 million in Japan alone, sorry about that. It will "only" do 2.4-3.2 million.

Well, now we know it will surely get close at the very least. About your 2.4-3.2 million prediction... uh...

VAMatt said:
No chance whatsoever.

It is launching on a console with an install base of less than 5 million. Even if it sells very well for the rest of this year, and reasonably well through 2018, and still sells okay through 2019, *and* the Switch continues to sell very well, Splatoon 2 *may* get to 10mm worldwide. That gives you 2-3mm in Japan. Even that requires a whole lot of factors to fall in the game.s favor.

Well, 2 million are already a thing, with this trend, 3 million will probabily happen for the first half of 2018.

boypita said:
No. The IP still needs to grow, but I think it could reach between 2.5M and 3M :)

I think the IP is already grow, way too much actually. :p

Wman1996 said:
No way. 2 million seems very possible. And 5 million worldwide is pretty much a given.

Yeah, 2 million sold in 6 months was very possible, as 5 million worldwide. Now, let's see how much it sell in the nexts years!

 



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Ryng_Tolu said:

It's time, guys. Splatoon 2 already sold over 2 million in Japan.

 

Mar1217 said:
maybe 2M lifetime in Japan but 5M ?! .... no way.

yeah, maybe 2 million in 6 months. There was no way for selling 5 million in such a short time...

Jranation said:

Its pulling some insane numbers in COMG right now...... For now I say around 2.5mil - 3mil LT. If the Monster Hunter, Pokemon and Animal Crossing fans gets the Switch and are also interested in this......... then OH BOY!

Well man, it's over 2 million already, and it sold over 100k last week, so unless his legs crash super hard, well, 3 million is pretty crazy, let alone 2.5 million.

Green098 said:

The Switch would need to sell well over 20 million lifetime in Japan like the 3DS which I see very achievable since it will be the only dedicated gaming handheld on the market there in the next year or so, but even then 5 million is outselling the best 3DS game in Japan Animal Crossing New Leaf which sold 4.5 million going by VGChartz numbers, so... right now as bold as I can go is it selling over 3 million in Japan but who knows, anything can happen.

By the way, Animal Crossing has sold over 5 million including digital. And Splatoon is way head of him...

SegataSanshiro said:
No. Splatoon can sell 5-6 million WW lifetime. 1 Million in japan and heck maybe even 1.5 mill in Japan. It's not going to outsell or come close to Dragon Quest or Monster Hunter numbers tho.

Was this comment about Splatoon 1, i hope? Because then this looks spot on...

Cloudman said:
There's being bold, and then... there's just being crazy.

Eh, i doubt this is either bold or crazy at this point.

Flilix said:
I hope you will turn out to be right, and the replies in this thread will be as ridiculous as these in your first Splatoon thread. However, I really doubt it. 3 million is certainly possible though, maybe even 4 million.

3 million now is impossible. Anything under 4 million is.

jason1637 said:
That's cra cra

Indeed. :D

abroZ said:

Did you know Splatoon is the best selling home console game between ps4/xbone and wiiu in Japan? Did you know Splatoon sold 1.5 million units on a 3.3 million userbase (Japan)? Do you believe splatoon 2 won't sell more on switch than it did on wiiu? 

That being said, dragon Quest 7 warriors is the most sold dragon Quest game on 3ds with 1.3 million units...the first splatoon already beat it. 

Monster Hunter 4 sold 3.4 million units. I don't think splatoon 2 will surpass it but I think it can definitely get close. I think you underestimate how big splatoon is over there. 

Well, now we know Splatoon 2 will easy surpass Monster Hunter 4.

Mike321 said:
I think that's impossible even for such a surprise hit like splatoon but hey you never know

Still impossible?

NewGuy said:
lol

Best comment of the thread.

StarOcean said:
Probably closer to 2 mill.

yeah. In 6 months. Now, let's see how numbers are in 5 years.

Qwark said:
It could do 2.5 million in Japan I guess. But 5 million is a really tall order.

less than 500k to go for that "possible" 2.5 million mark.

Dr.Vita said:
Nope, that's wishful thinking imo. It's not going to happen.

"Wishful thinking" like the first game selling 1.75 million, i guess.

Pavolink said:
I expect between 2.5 - 3 M.

Still expect that?

couchmonkey said:

Except massive attach rates are sort of common on underperforming consoles.*  Actually, I just made that up, now I'll have to go check... :)  But seriously, Super Mario Galaxy didn't magically sell 25 million just because it was on a much better-selling console than Super Mario 64.

I think 5 million in Japan alone is way out there, but I do hope for Splatoon 2 to have a much better showing worldwide thanks to Switch's improved sales.  I'm thinking more like 10 million, though.

*Hmm, checked a few series like Mario, Halo, GTA and it's kind of inconclusive.  If we want to take a pretty optimistic Mario Kart type scenario for Splatoon, then 3.5-4 million might actually be feasible for Japan, that would be nice to see.  I'd be shocked to see >4 million.

Well, now we know for sure it won't sell under 4 million.

DaAndy said:
it will not even closely reach 5 million in Japan alone, sorry about that. It will "only" do 2.4-3.2 million.

Well, now we know it will surely get close at the very least. About your 2.4-3.2 million prediction... uh...

VAMatt said:
No chance whatsoever.

It is launching on a console with an install base of less than 5 million. Even if it sells very well for the rest of this year, and reasonably well through 2018, and still sells okay through 2019, *and* the Switch continues to sell very well, Splatoon 2 *may* get to 10mm worldwide. That gives you 2-3mm in Japan. Even that requires a whole lot of factors to fall in the game.s favor.

Well, 2 million are already a thing, with this trend, 3 million will probabily happen for the first half of 2018.

boypita said:
No. The IP still needs to grow, but I think it could reach between 2.5M and 3M :)

I think the IP is already grow, way too much actually. :p

Wman1996 said:
No way. 2 million seems very possible. And 5 million worldwide is pretty much a given.

Yeah, 2 million sold in 6 months was very possible, as 5 million worldwide. Now, let's see how much it sell in the nexts years!

 

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