| kitler53 said: what was done in that video was horrible but a lot of the people posting in this thread need a history lesson: |
First of all, a link would do.
Second of all, this was like 60 years ago. We know christianity was shitty back then. Also most of us were not born then, so just because stuff like this happened in the past doesnt mean its ok now.
KLXVER said:
First of all, a link would do. Second of all, this was like 60 years ago. We know christianity was shitty back then. Also most of us were not born then, so just because stuff like this happened in the past doesnt mean its ok now. |
No to mention every single race, religion, ect has been persecuted at some point in history.
Doesn't make it all of a sudden right for someone else to do it now.
betacon said:
Please where at gay people beaten to death openly in any western country? Where are black people being shot for being black? Where are large numbers of whites being bashed? Ridiculously you would even compare the situations |
Why does it matter if it's open or not. Hate no matter if hidden to open results in the same outcome. At least in the open it can be reviewed, critized and exposed for what it is. Hidden it can fester and grow making it seem like there isn't anything wrong going on and people can ignore it like your comment. Also if you do not think black people have not been shot for being black or a gay person killed for being killed, then you live in that nice rosy world where hidden hate crimes never happen.
| taus90 said: It was not about that he insulted Prophet or anything, it was just University had organized Q&A of sorts over islamic issue and this guy was sufi muslim which is a minority community in pakistan who believes everyone has right to practice their own religion... he just asked many question during the Q&A, about why there were so many different views of islam within islam and how can someone claim that their way of following islam is better than of that Shia or Sufi. This irked some local goons and they lynched him to death because nobody had answer to his question and uni didn't do much to stop it.. According to me this has nothing to do with Islam its just lack of proper education or better of word literacy, because at one side there was this Muslim who was liberal and other just plain mob mentality hiding behind the religion. |
What was the end result of this. Were the students that killed the other students punished, put in jail or anything or did they totally ignore what occured. Its one thing for people to act violent based on any belief its another if their society does not have rules and punishment to deal with such actions.
| kitler53 said: what was done in that video was horrible but a lot of the people posting in this thread need a history lesson: |
That happened like a 100 years ago. We can evolved as a society where as half these muslim countries are going backwards with brainwashing it's people.
An example of what Iran used to be
http://www.pagef30.com/2009/04/iran-in-1970s-before-islamic-revolution.html
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/06/23/iranian-and-afghan-women-then-and-now/
irstupid said:
No to mention every single race, religion, ect has been persecuted at some point in history. Doesn't make it all of a sudden right for someone else to do it now. |
i clearly said that what happend in the video was horrible. i never called it right and it isn't right. the perspective that muslims are predisposed to be evil and violent while christains are soo morally high needs to be fought against. both sides of the coin have good and bad to point at.
Cobretti2 said:
That happened like a 100 years ago. We can evolved as a society where as half these muslim countries are going backwards with brainwashing it's people. An example of what Iran used to be http://www.pagef30.com/2009/04/iran-in-1970s-before-islamic-revolution.html https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/06/23/iranian-and-afghan-women-then-and-now/ |
those photos may have been 100 years ago but the fight still goes on today. how many video's of police murdering black men for nothing crimes would you like to look at just from the year 2016? would you like to watch the trump rally where thousands of white men cheered when trump said back in the good old days protesters would carried out in body bags?
if you are going to judge a country based on 1 or 2 youtube videos a year i promise you america looks just as savage as the rest.
| irstupid said: How often do you experience someone trying to convert you? I'm guessing are referencing seeing something on the media of people trying to push their homosexual beliefs on others. In my life I have more people try to say how evil I am for eating meat or some other essentially religion of theirs, thing than anyone talking about an actual religion period. There was some study done that found that people "need" some sort of religion to feel satisfied/fullfilled/ect. Now when I say religion, I don't mean as in the classical religion of Christianity, Islam, Jeduism, ect, but taking something and making it their religion. That could be anything from pushing your paleo/vegan/ect diet onto someone, to pushing that said video game consoel is the best console in the world. Sports are to many their religion. It isn't just religion that people try to force their beliefs onto others. I mean how hard do you see others on this site try and convince others that said console is the best console. They can't just enjoy their console in peace, they need to make sure that others also like their same console and/or games. God forbid you trash it, or give it a bad review. |
It's true that people will always want to belong to a certain "team" and tell the other "teams" that their "team" is the best one, but that's not what we are talking about.
You are saying that it's not on the believers to prove the existence of god, forgetting that their religions aren't just something they practice in their homes, but in reality, those religions' circles of influence are much larger than that, and in many cases, they dictate how non-believers should live their lives in most parts of the world, including the US. For example, homosexuals weren't allowed to get married in the US until recently just because Christianity doesn't approve.
It's non-believers' right to DEMAND proof of Allah, Jesus or whatever god you believe in, if you are gonna deny them human rights based on those gods' teachings. Another example is in the OP, Khan (the student in the video) was killed brutally while everyone was watching because Allah teaches Muslims to kill the apostates.
I have the right to demand proof of Allah & Jesus's existence if we are gonna murder the apostates and fight for laws to deny homosexuals the right to get married, that's in no way comprable to fanboys telling me how the Switch sucks.
Peh said:
Because not every single human living there is like that. You are generalizing a whole nation because of some black sheeps. |
100 people watching another 10 brutally crashing someone's head in public, and 0 out of 100 try to stop it looks like a general attitude in my eyes
also, would Christians go and live carefree and happy lives in those countries? probably not, judging from this kind of incidends, it sounds like a cross on your neck could get you killed anytime...
muslims on the other hand can come and live happy in europe and usa, freely expressing their beliefs without fearing for their life
don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^
SpokenTruth said:
Yeah. I guess we should also start hating on young, white Christians after the Dylan Roof incident. |
seriously? that was a single psychopath, clearly a racial hate crime commited by a single person, nothing related to religion fanatism, and obviously not a crowd watching in secret satisfaction
don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^
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