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Lawlight said:
d21lewis said:
People hate whatever they don't have. They don't want to feel like they're missing something.

Or people don't have those things because they don't like it.

Yeah.

 

I don't know have the words. I'll just say that if it's something I'm not interested in, I just ignore it. I don't  (for example) game on PC and couldn't care less about what happens on that platform. There's something different about people who don't game on a certain platform (PSVR for example) and go out of their way to convince themselves and others that it's trash.



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Intrinsic said:
KLXVER said:
Maybe people don't want to buy a slightly upgraded console every 2-3 years?

its not like they have got a gun to anyones head...... 

To OP.... i think they have just become louder.

No and people who complain about Nintendo not having powerful hardware dont have to buy that either. Theres alot of first world problems we complain about.



People don't like change, and most certainly don't like going "backwards" or not continually progressing forwards at the same rate or even faster.
People overall are also more busy for many reasons, especially negative ones, like multiple part time dead end jobs, etc, and anything extra becomes more of a headache than it used to be, considering the wealthier world seems to be working less and making things even easier for themselves to give them more free time on top of that.
People also fear the possibilities of what a very slight change could potentially bring to the norm. New fully compatible hardware is one thing, but eventually forcing people to upgrade once their used to it is another. Nobody can know for sure if this is all part of the plan now, or something that could be introduced later on just to gain profits, or won't even be considered and will never happen.
There are also the individuals who may prefer one platform/brand over another, yet really likes some games from other platforms/brands. Well if those platforms/brands fail, the possibility that their software ends up on your platform is at least possible.

I have no problems with new hardware, as long as it makes sense for the masses. New hardware every year seems like too much. At least every other year if not longer. Mandatory upgrades could then be every 6 or 8 years. What would need to be clear is that your 1080p PS4/XB1 ends up eventually being a 720p box if you hold onto it long enough. Also a decent trade in program as well, so your not always forking out full price for upgraded hardware. This wouldn't change things all too much and would add more choice for everyone.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

I look at new gaming hardware like new TVs or new cellphones.

I have one. It's capable but there's already a better version coming, if not already on the market. As long as mine is capable and I'm happy, I don't worry about it. If there's a point where new versions are enticing or my old version doesn't thrill, I upgrade. I'm not, not do I feel a need to be on the cutting edge.



KLXVER said:
Intrinsic said:

its not like they have got a gun to anyones head...... 

To OP.... i think they have just become louder.

No and people who complain about Nintendo not having powerful hardware dont have to buy that either. Theres alot of first world problems we complain about.

that doesn't even make sense...... not buying say a switch because it lacks power which means it won't get certain trypes of games is a legitimate complaint and one that would affect the buying decison of millions. Even if most of those millions don't know they reason the console isn't getting the games they want to play is because its not powerful enough.

But people complaining about the PS4 vs the PS4pro is just flat out stupid when you consider that the only difference is a boost in resolution and/or better performance of the exacts same games. Its not like buying one over the other means you can't play some games.



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EricHiggin said:

People don't like change, and most certainly don't like going "backwards" or not continually progressing forwards at the same rate or even faster.
People overall are also more busy for many reasons, especially negative ones, like multiple part time dead end jobs, etc, and anything extra becomes more of a headache than it used to be, considering the wealthier world seems to be working less and making things even easier for themselves to give them more free time on top of that.
People also fear the possibilities of what a very slight change could potentially bring to the norm. New fully compatible hardware is one thing, but eventually forcing people to upgrade once their used to it is another. Nobody can know for sure if this is all part of the plan now, or something that could be introduced later on just to gain profits, or won't even be considered and will never happen.
There are also the individuals who may prefer one platform/brand over another, yet really likes some games from other platforms/brands. Well if those platforms/brands fail, the possibility that their software ends up on your platform is at least possible.

I have no problems with new hardware, as long as it makes sense for the masses. New hardware every year seems like too much. At least every other year if not longer. Mandatory upgrades could then be every 6 or 8 years. What would need to be clear is that your 1080p PS4/XB1 ends up eventually being a 720p box if you hold onto it long enough. Also a decent trade in program as well, so your not always forking out full price for upgraded hardware. This wouldn't change things all too much and would add more choice for everyone.

The problem is I see PS4 Pro and Scorpio as an attempt to turn the console market into what smartphones already are. And it`s OK. I think we all have to gain with this route, forward compatibility to a certain point and infinite backward compatibility with benefits, it`s win-win for everybody. Players gain more options to balace horsepower/price, developers win for easier development and manufacturers win by keeping their product in demand and with an ever growing library of games. 



Intrinsic said:
KLXVER said:

No and people who complain about Nintendo not having powerful hardware dont have to buy that either. Theres alot of first world problems we complain about.

that doesn't even make sense...... not buying say a switch because it lacks power which means it won't get certain trypes of games is a legitimate complaint and one that would affect the buying decison of millions. Even if most of those millions don't know they reason the console isn't getting the games they want to play is because its not powerful enough.

But people complaining about the PS4 vs the PS4pro is just flat out stupid when you consider that the only difference is a boost in resolution and/or better performance of the exacts same games. Its not like buying one over the other means you can't play some games.

Its not a legitimate complaint. If the console wont get certain games because it lacks power, then buy a more powerful console that will get those games. If you dont care enough to do some research about the console youre buying, then you are probably just buying whatever the console maker tells you to buy anyway.



I hope that the PS4 Pro and Scorpio do well because it would help out both companies but I despise the idea of hardware revision. I think it's a little snowball at the top of mountain that creeping along to the edge. I'm afraid that it would become a trend for the big 3 and revision hardware exclusives would happen.



Aeolus451 said:
I hope that the PS4 Pro and Scorpio do well because it would help out both companies but I despise the idea of hardware revision. I think it's a little snowball at the top of mountain that creeping along to the edge. I'm afraid that it would become a trend for the big 3 and revision hardware exclusives would happen.

With consoles like DSi, New Nintendo 3DS, GBC, etc. one could argue that this has happened a long time ago. We just didn't notice.



d21lewis said:
Aeolus451 said:
I hope that the PS4 Pro and Scorpio do well because it would help out both companies but I despise the idea of hardware revision. I think it's a little snowball at the top of mountain that creeping along to the edge. I'm afraid that it would become a trend for the big 3 and revision hardware exclusives would happen.

With consoles like DSi, New Nintendo 3DS, GBC, etc. one could argue that this has happened a long time ago. We just didn't notice.

I guess I should have worded that different. I was talking about home consoles but yes, nintendo has been doing that with their handhelds.