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VGPolyglot said:

Well, climate change may cause a huge threat in the future, so maybe that'll finally force us to unite?

You first have to convince some of the population that it's even real.



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VGPolyglot said:
Azzanation said:
Only way for humans to find peace with eachother is when we find a bigger threat. *patiently waiting for the Covenant to invade*

Well, climate change may cause a huge threat in the future, so maybe that'll finally force us to unite?

Then what? We hold hands and sing kumbaya mi lord?



Hunting Season is done...

Interesting change of events, a supposed chemical gas attack occurred with dozens dead, media blames Assad for it - strange timing now that ISIS is in decline.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/world/middleeast/syria-gas-attack.html

Fun fact, left-wing politifact said that the Obama-admin had successfully removed chemical weapons from Syria:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/apr/05/revisiting-obama-track-record-syrias-chemical-weap/

McCain is already arguing for a war, pardon a liberation of Syria from Assad - a last attempt to get the US into major war with Russia over Syria? Remember the "they took the babies out of the incubators" that got us into Iraq?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_(testimony)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR4cgeJJPqg



ISIS has been on a constant decline for two years now, and it will only make them more radical until they are dispersed. It will only lead to new terror cells forming though, but will hopefully cause a temporary break in terror attacks.



Was reading about the attack by isis in Egypt and how people believe ISIS is still expanding but at the same time moving to the West (Egypt) apparantly they have an easy time recruiting people in that region.






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Two important things happened recently, the caliphate will not be much longer.

Iraqi forces enter Mosul mosque where Isis declared caliphate
Iraqi forces close to seizing control of Great Mosque of al-Nuri, where Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi proclaimed himself Isis leader three years ago

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/29/mosul-mosque-where-isis-declared-caliphate-has-been-recaptured
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/iraq-army-seizes-ruins-mosul-mosque-isil-170629101924765.html


Russia's Foreign Ministry has said there is a high degree of certainty that Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-dead-latest-news-isis-russian-airstrike-islamic-state-a7802796.html



numberwang said:
Two important things happened recently, the caliphate will not be much longer.

Iraqi forces enter Mosul mosque where Isis declared caliphate
Iraqi forces close to seizing control of Great Mosque of al-Nuri, where Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi proclaimed himself Isis leader three years ago

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/29/mosul-mosque-where-isis-declared-caliphate-has-been-recaptured
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/iraq-army-seizes-ruins-mosul-mosque-isil-170629101924765.html


Russia's Foreign Ministry has said there is a high degree of certainty that Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-dead-latest-news-isis-russian-airstrike-islamic-state-a7802796.html

"The Caliphate"

That's a gigantic exageration. Caliphate roughly translates to Empire; but it has greater meaning by Arabic reckoning is greater than that too, as it must be ruled by someone from royal lineage in the line of Qeraysh. Calling them the Caliphate is as accurate as calling them the Roman Empire.

They're a few thousand paramilitary rebels that is over-exposed in Western media, not an Empire.



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Jumpin said:

"The Caliphate"

That's a gigantic exageration. Caliphate roughly translates to Empire; but it has greater meaning by Arabic reckoning is greater than that too, as it must be ruled by someone from royal lineage in the line of Qeraysh. Calling them the Caliphate is as accurate as calling them the Roman Empire.

They're a few thousand paramilitary rebels that is over-exposed in Western media, not an Empire.

ISIS was a major force because they included most of the Sunnis in Iraq and Syria after the Shia-government took control in Iraq. The Sunni-Shia divide in Iraq will be a long-term line of friction.

If ISIS is defeated by 'colluding' with the Russians without another escalation it will be the largest foreign success by Trump/Mattis repairing most of the damage that Obama/Clinton started by trying to overthrow the government of Syria (and Libya).

 



The YPG has done a pretty good job.



The collapse of ISIS is inevitable. The leader of ISIS will be found and executed on the spot. The death of the ISIS leader will hopefully end ISIS reign of tyranny.