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No. If ISIS gets 'defeated', it's members will just disappear in the masses, waiting for the right moment for a terrorist attack, or maybe they will join another group. Muslim terrorism will stop when the idea of committing terrorist attacks in name of Allah stops.



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Looking forward to the fall of ISIS but let's be realistic there will still be a lot of trouble in the middle east. Don't think it will be this bad again but you never get peace in the East for long.



Mar1217 said:
aLkaLiNE said:

Lol no. War will never end until the structure of society itself changes. 

Wouldn't the eradication of the human race be the only good solution ? Cuz as humans, we're fundamentaly always in conflicts with other people ideals and some of us respond in a  violent way which translate to war.

No, I don't think so at least. I think a lot of problems around the world stem from the illusion of wealth and what we are taught to value and how we are taught to value it. It seems like technology is only accelerating mans rapid downfall as we have been given more mediums of "entertainment" which as we know it today is largely a perpetual loop of conceitment and greed and selfishness. We idolize people for the wrong things, we watch tv shows that are sexist or racist or make jokes at the expense of others yet turn around and play victim once the barrier between media and reality is removed.  Its all deliberately backward to me. I don't think it's too late for humanity to correct its course, it just takes a powerful idea and a generation to stand behind it. We may only reach that point on the brink of total destruction but who knows. War is perpetual though. That's not gonna change until the world leaders change, or until we change.



Not quite collapsing, rather slowly but surely losing for the last year. They have been fighting on 6-7 fronts with way less manpower and equipment. If Raqqa falls this year they will be demoted from a quasi-state to a normal terrorist group hiding in the desert mountains. But even then there's Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham and friends (the white on the map) who were literally Al-Qaeda in Syria and the FSA to deal with. I don't see peace in Syria for the next minimum 3 years and if Assad can't deal with the Kurds with diplomacy - another 3-5. 

 a better map:



fory77 said:

Not quite collapsing, rather slowly but surely losing for the last year. They have been fighting on 6-7 fronts with way less manpower and equipment. If Raqqa falls this year they will be demoted from a quasi-state to a normal terrorist group hiding in the desert mountains. But even then there's Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham and friends (the white on the map) who were literally Al-Qaeda in Syria and the FSA to deal with. I don't see peace in Syria for the next minimum 3 years and if Assad can't deal with the Kurds with diplomacy - another 3-5. 

 a better map:

The conflict could last for decades. Afghanistan has been in conflict since 1978.



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Kerotan said:
Looking forward to the fall of ISIS but let's be realistic there will still be a lot of trouble in the middle east. Don't think it will be this bad again but you never get peace in the East for long.

Yeah, I'm sure the three remaining parties contesting for territory in Syria will resolve their differences peacfully when ISIS is gone...



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VGPolyglot said:
fory77 said:

Not quite collapsing, rather slowly but surely losing for the last year. They have been fighting on 6-7 fronts with way less manpower and equipment. If Raqqa falls this year they will be demoted from a quasi-state to a normal terrorist group hiding in the desert mountains. But even then there's Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham and friends (the white on the map) who were literally Al-Qaeda in Syria and the FSA to deal with. I don't see peace in Syria for the next minimum 3 years and if Assad can't deal with the Kurds with diplomacy - another 3-5. 

 a better map:

The conflict could last for decades. Afghanistan has been in conflict since 1978.

Most of the dark grey area is empty desert though, nobody really controls nothingness, in particular without an airforce.

I don't think the Kurds are interested in territorial expansion but want some local autonomy instead - so this conflicts can be balanced as long as they don't declare their own state (Turkey don't like this).

The Al-Qaeda (the white on the map) is smaller than I thought, how long can they endure?

Key aspect for the West is to stop giving weapons to "rebels" like candy which turned local terror groups into military forces.



aLkaLiNE said:

Lol no. War will never end until the structure of society itself changes. 

I live in Brazil, and we don't have war here.

Sure it's possible. It's just that your real leadership is a weapon cartell.



Resistance to western occupation is an idea bred from an imbalance in humanity. It will remain while the people remain occupied.



I remember hearing the same thing about Al Queada .. or whatever. Then out of their ashes rose ISIS.

These groups are funded by very rich people so another probably more potent evil will arise after ISIS.

It helps western governments to keep its citizens scared, especially the right.