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Nintendo fan base is small compared to the PlayStation and Xbox fan bases, always has been since the ps1 days, wii did not sell 100m+ to Nintendo fans it sold them to people on the hypetrain for motion controls.
Handheld market is shrinking rapidly due to the market penetration of smartphones and the switch is a desperate attempt to combine home, portable and Mobile market potential customer base into one tree, before the fruits rot and fall to the ground.

If Nintendo still do their own hardware in 10 years I will genuinely be surprised.

That's my take on this, and I say it as someone that has owned every Nintendo console and handheld since the nes.



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pray4mojo said:
VGPolyglot said:

What makes no one else doing it? Many of the third party games are already on other consoles, and even Nintendo games themselves have at least something similar on other consoles.

You can't take your Xbox One and PS4 on the go and play it at work/school. You can't do that. It's just not possible. The Switch is going to do things that the other two guys can't. Even the media format is different. 

It is nevertheless what I do thanks to my Vita connected to my phone...

But Nintendo has others pros although they are not the only one to be creative and taking risks.



pray4mojo said:
FunFan said:

They didn't really changed the controller this gen either. They just tweaked it.

Totally agree. But I didn't want to get into a semantics argument lol

And yet they still manage to churn out far more appealing games than Nintendo did in the last 7 years. The controller is tried and arguably the best in class. Sony is actually beating Nintendo at its own game, and that is gaming content Thats why they have pretty much dominated 3 out of the last 4 generations. But this is fairly off topic, so I guess thats all Im still adding.

On topic: hollow and hipocritical in most part. Let us see a serious game library Shigeru, and maybe we will actually start listening again.



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pray4mojo said:

You obviously took what he said on face value. He didn't mean being unique makes you the market leader. He meant that by being "one of a kind" you're atuomatically number one at what you're doing because there's simply no one else competeing. The PS4 is the market leader of the 8th generation, but it's been done before. It's not the "first" in that regard. Sony has released the same basic product since the PS1. They didn't even change the controller until this generation lol. They're followers, not creative leaders. Nintendo are the creative leaders as far as hardware goes. Does that mean they're always the market leader? Nope, not at all. But creatively, hell yeah. They're always taking risks and trying something new. 

Posts like this make me wonder if half the brilliance of Nintendo isn't simply being able to convince diehard Nintendo fans that Nintendo is itself a sacred cow.

Let's start with "They didn't even change the controller until this generation lol."  What does that even mean?  "That new car still has 4 wheels lol."  "Les Paul guitars still look the same as they did in the 1960s lol."  Basically, though it's intended to be a criticism, it's not, because there is no substance in the argument.  It has no meaning.  The belief he's trying to present as truth is that change is better than refinement, which, personally, I find to be rubbish.  Refinement is more often better than change that exists for the sake of change.  That's why some of the most mature industries change very slowly.  Throwing in a car with 5 wheels might be change but it doesn't necessarily make for a better car.

Next, "Nintendo are the creative leaders as far as hardware goes."  Sure, like the others have been following Nintendo for the last twenty years.  That simply isn't true.  All the big manufacturers borrow good ideas from one another, as they should, but the idea that everyone emulates what Nintendo is doing is obviously false.  Nintendo does it's own thing, which is fine, but they haven't been leading the direction of hardware in a very long time.  In fact, in recent years, they've been adopting more of what is standard in the industry than the other way around.  

None of what I've said is criticism of Nintendo.  What they do is fine.  It's criticism of fans who use convoluted logic to convince themselves that they have the largest inauguration attendence in history.



Well said. But I have to add: Nintendo is not at the top. Nintendo IS the top.



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Soo true, thats why ps4 is no1.



 

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xl-klaudkil said:
Soo true, thats why ps4 is no1.

For now...



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Anfebious said:
xl-klaudkil said:
Soo true, thats why ps4 is no1.

For now...

Well, obviously, the PS5 will take its place eventually...



Nice job Rol.

I can't wait to sink my thumbs into the Switch. As for the retro gamer portion, it's killing me that we still don't know how they will handle VC.



Anfebious said:
xl-klaudkil said:
Soo true, thats why ps4 is no1.

For now...

Dont  see switch  catching  up on  ps4, soo for ever.

 

Well at least  you could  try and  spinn it soo that it looks like switch  has a 3 years headstart  to ps5



 

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