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bonzobanana said:
invetedlotus123 said:

I live in Goiânia, this happened in Anapolis, where he lived. Very close cities, many people live in one and work/study in the other. 

 

This situation is nonsense, and it`s just escalating everyday more. And also yesterday there was a shooting in a big supermarket ( is Carrefour a thing in USA?) for the most ridiculuous reason and one person died and two are in risk of death. 

It always happened, but now it`s coming to places where before were considered security islands and higher classes neighborhoods media is paying attention. But it`s bizarre to think you can die by going to the supermarket or at home... 

I`m just finishing my law degree this semester, and now i`m really sorry about it, if I did an engineering course I could use it abroad, a law degree is pretty much useless in other countries... 

It's not useless it shows you have been educated to a high standard. I certainly take your point it was probably not the best choice. Were you planning on going into criminal law? That would seem dangerous in itself if the system is corrupt.

Is there not a better place in Brazil you can move to if leaving the country is not an option? Better to be poor and alive than a rich corpse so if it means a drop in living standards it may still be worth doing.

I honestly wish you the very best of luck in getting yourself safe with a better future.

Do you have any distant relatives in other countries that could help you move there?

My family mostly didn`t move abroad, and the only ascendence I have in a very, very, very distant way is Jewish, like my grandgrandgrandfather was jewish, so even if I wanted to go to Israel I`d have much trouble trying to find any proof of that. 

 

I studying many options righ now, the best ones I found were moving to France and Germany to get a Master Degree, it`s the safest way to emigrate whitout being illegal. Emigration is not that hard, mainly to Europe, if you want to study and than look for a job. I really don`t consider other south americans countries much, because most of them aren`t any better. The only place that can be a little better is Uruguay, even Argentina have been through very harsh economical crisis. I would consider Panamá a lot though.



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I knew violence in Brazil was bad, but not quite THIS bad..



                
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Well, I'm from Brazil too (Curitiba, Paraná) and I haven't seen something like that here

I'm really sorry for your loss, our country is a mess right now... I really wish I could just move from here. I'm grateful that Paraná is a very rich state, so we're not facing lack of security here (well not yet lol).

I thought Dilma's administration was bad, but Michel Temer is even worst. F*** bastard




gigaSheik said:
Keep electing socialists.
Keep electing liberals.
Keep electing leftists.

It's so sad that the term "liberal" is synonym for left-wing in english. In portuguese, liberal has a different tone. Actually, socialists here call liberal people fascists, conservatives and reactionaries.

Not electing socialists isn't even an option down here. There's not a single party that is not left wing. Maybe Partido Novo (New Party in english) and Democratas (Democrats). There's only a few politicians that are right wing.

Although I totally dislike our lasts presidents (Lula, Dilma and now Temer), I don't think security is a problem direct related to them. Maybe they are all guilty for not solving it.

Actually, tough I support the freedom to have a gun, I don't know if it would really help anyone here. The criminals are so organized and trained that even the police have a hard time.

OP: It's really hard to feel safe in any place in Brazil. I live in São Leopoldo, one of the most dangerous city in Rio Grande do Sul, and was robbed two times (one of them by a guy with a gun, I'm lucky to be alive). Meus pêsames pelo teu amigo e força pra ti, invetedlotus123!



Lawlight said:
Nem said:

That wouldn't solve anything, criminals in Brazil have alot of armaments and gangs. Only the authorities could fix the situation, but everything in Brazil is corrupt and out of hand.

 

Really, the only advice i have is... get out of there. I met a brazillian here in the Nederlands and she was super happy that she left. She said she would never go back because she never felt safe there. 

You speak english and you speak portuguese. Emmigration options there. I wouldn't stay there at all.

Can you elaborate on the emmigration options? I'd be very curious about those.

Just my 2 cents, but I went to Japan on a working holiday. It's a one year visa, you can work and it's not very hard to get, the only condition is to have a few savings and less than 30 years old. It seems that Brazil has at least an agreement with France, Germany, South Korea, and New Zealand. By the way Japan is really amazing in term of security, it's really like nothing can happen, noone I know has ever been robbed, I have never seen a fight, it's perfectly peaceful, you walk alone by night, and you just can't thing something could happen.  

I've watched "Ciudad de Dios" a long time ago, superb but disturbing movie, made me feel that's where we are heading to in Europe. Anyway sorry for your loss, that's hard. Don't overthink before things cool down.



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lonerism said:
Well, I'm from Brazil too (Curitiba, Paraná) and I haven't seen something like that here

I'm really sorry for your loss, our country is a mess right now... I really wish I could just move from here. I'm grateful that Paraná is a very rich state, so we're not facing lack of security here (well not yet lol).

I thought Dilma's administration was bad, but Michel Temer is even worst. F*** bastard


Curitiba is a dream when compared to the rest of the country. Already thought on moving to Paraná. I lived in São Paulo for some time and actually felt really safe there (but I know it's not safe at all).



Netyaroze said:
Sounds harsh. You need to arm yourself. And put up high walls and barbed wire fences additionally to it. Also put up signs that people will be shot on your property. Get some vicious dogs.

It's almost impossible to have a legal gun. Almost every house have high walls and electric fence in high and mid class neighbours. Dogs are common too. You cannot shot anyone in your own property, that's not considered self-defense in brazilian law. Jair Bolsonaro (a brazilian deputy) tried to change this, but without success.

We are fucked one way or another. In the end, with all that, the good people are the ones who live in prisons.



lonerism said:
Well, I'm from Brazil too (Curitiba, Paraná) and I haven't seen something like that here

I'm really sorry for your loss, our country is a mess right now... I really wish I could just move from here. I'm grateful that Paraná is a very rich state, so we're not facing lack of security here (well not yet lol).

I thought Dilma's administration was bad, but Michel Temer is even worst. F*** bastard


I`ll replie in english so anyone in the forum can follow the discussion

In Goiás the state of public security is horrendous. Marconi Perillo is a fucking bastard, he refuses to hire new police men even having more than one thousand people that passed the public tests and are just waiting to be trained and start their work. He always do that, he knows things are going to shit, but he let`s it happen so he can sell the miracle solution of privatization of said public service, wich works a little but isn`t any magic solution also. 

I`ve already traveled to the south, I visited Curitiba, Florianopolis, Guaratuba and Maringá and some other smaller cities, when I as a child I went there almost twice a year because of my step-father. And I also visited a lot of the North because my grandparents from my mother side lived in Tocantins. The difference in realities is brutal, I mean, it`s like there`s two or more countries inside Brazil, one part looks like Africa and the other like Europe. I visited Salvador last year, and for particular reasons I`ll going to move there once I finish my education in Goiania. Is a nice city if you stay in the nices places, but what shocked the most there is the racial segregation. I mean, if you go to the mall most people are white, but just outside the mall most people are black. 



invetedlotus123 said:
lonerism said:
Well, I'm from Brazil too (Curitiba, Paraná) and I haven't seen something like that here

I'm really sorry for your loss, our country is a mess right now... I really wish I could just move from here. I'm grateful that Paraná is a very rich state, so we're not facing lack of security here (well not yet lol).

I thought Dilma's administration was bad, but Michel Temer is even worst. F*** bastard


I`ll replie in english so anyone in the forum can follow the discussion

In Goiás the state of public security is horrendous. Marconi Perillo is a fucking bastard, he refuses to hire new police men even having more than one thousand people that passed the public tests and are just waiting to be trained and start their work. He always do that, he knows things are going to shit, but he let`s it happen so he can sell the miracle solution of privatization of said public service, wich works a little but isn`t any magic solution also. 

I`ve already traveled to the south, I visited Curitiba, Florianopolis, Guaratuba and Maringá and some other smaller cities, when I as a child I went there almost twice a year because of my step-father. And I also visited a lot of the North because my grandparents from my mother side lived in Tocantins. The difference in realities is brutal, I mean, it`s like there`s two or more countries inside Brazil, one part looks like Africa and the other like Europe. I visited Salvador last year, and for particular reasons I`ll going to move there once I finish my education in Goiania. Is a nice city if you stay in the nices places, but what shocked the most there is the racial segregation. I mean, if you go to the mall most people are white, but just outside the mall most people are black. 

I'm really sorry to hear that :(

You said you are finishing your degree, right? Maybe trying to finish your studies here? It's not that expensive the cost of living in Curitiba, comparing to other cities like São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro and Florianópolis



BraLoD said:
AZWification said:

I knew violence in Brazil was bad, but not quite THIS bad..

Right in front of where I work, and I mean literally, it's 20M away, on the other side of the street, there was a massive shoutout last year, guys had heavy machine guns and explosives, it was an one hour long non stop one sided shooting against our helpless police.
I've never seem anything like that, crime is pretty damn common here, all kinds of robbery, yeah, they tried to enter my house several times as well, one time I was right next to the door (a glass door, but filled with iron bars), using the nootbook on the table next to it, and the guy tried to enter from that door, saw me there, and gladly didn't have a gun and ran away, but this kind of massive shootouts was a first to me, though it happens on Rio all the damn time.

Shit, when ar ethings going to get better there?



                
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