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I still haven't played ME3 yet, don't really feel like it either. ME Andromeda will need some stellar reviews to convince me it went back to form instead of more cover based shooter.



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Mass Effect gets more popular as time goes on. It's a fantastic series that deserves recognition. Andromeda will be a much easier title to sell because it's a new game that can stand on it's own with minimal bearings to the original trilogy. So it'll be easier for people to dive right in to the story with the new and improved gameplay mechanics which will help drive the series forward and offer tons of elements of fun!

I think things will be a bit more simplistic in terms of narrative design in comparisons to ME1 and ME3. Likely closer to ME2, with some complex layers and a more definite ending like ME1. People shouldn't use ME3's ending as a gauge for their purchases of Andromeda. Lessons have been learned and noted, rather the creators are in agreement with them or not.... Remember that the fans are required to drive a series forward and keep it alive :)       

hudsoniscool said:
If resident evil can do 2.5 million than mass effect can do 3 million.

Bro... are you serious? Resident Evil is one of the biggest and most iconic franchises in the video game industry. It influences other developers and inspires better games. It's simply one of the best game series out there hands down. I don't even know how to take your comment unless your a teenage who didn't grow up in the PS1 and Game Cube era. Even still, RE5 was a phenomenal game in terms of gameplay design. There is no doubt in my mind about that! RE6 was still a GOOD game but had a lot of flaws that many fans could not see past and design elements that were not fitting to that series, one could argue that many reviews were overly biased in their rating and their anger can be very much understood from a certain point of view. A couple years ago we got Revelations 2, which restored that faith by offering one of the best plots to date in the series and now RE7 reinvented the survival horror genre once again with a total revolution and overhaul of the gameplay mechanics like RE4 did before it. It's truly worthy of it's praise!

PS. Speaking of Resident Evil. Did you know that RE4 was a benchmark for the gameplay mechanics for ME2? That game owes a lot to RE4 as do many other games such as Gears of War, The Order of 1886 and many others.


SvennoJ said:
I still haven't played ME3 yet, don't really feel like it either. ME Andromeda will need some stellar reviews to convince me it went back to form instead of more cover based shooter.


I think that's a little unfair and that you should try ME3. Personally I also happen to slightly agree with your ending statement. ME2, while was a great game. It was my least favorite for that reason. Plus the more predictable narrative structure and a more accessible appeal.... I love it but it just wasn't up to par with ME1 and ME3 which both contain far more RPG elements. ME3 in terms of game mechanics really combines the best of elements of ME1 and ME2. There's days where I debate on which game is better, ME1 or ME3? Years later it's endless in my mind because they really go full circle with each other once the game ends. As for the ending.... all I can say is that it's your story and you need to make up your own mind. Never listen to others when it comes to the ending of the ME trilogy until after you've experienced the whole journey from beginning (ME1) to end (ME3). It really is an amazing and satisfying experience in my mind. Of course I recommend you do all the side quests and really explore the world of ME if you truly want to understand the ending. The theme is something that appears to be an underappreciated thing of beauty. Something so inspiring and powerful, but it's execution may have missed the mark by being a little... too ambiguous.



Airaku said:

Mass Effect gets more popular as time goes on. It's a fantastic series that deserves recognition. Andromeda will be a much easier title to sell because it's a new game that can stand on it's own with minimal bearings to the original trilogy. So it'll be easier for people to dive right in to the story with the new and improved gameplay mechanics which will help drive the series forward and offer tons of elements of fun!

I think things will be a bit more simplistic in terms of narrative design in comparisons to ME1 and ME3. Likely closer to ME2, with some complex layers and a more definite ending like ME1. People shouldn't use ME3's ending as a gauge for their purchases of Andromeda. Lessons have been learned and noted, rather the creators are in agreement with them or not.... Remember that the fans are required to drive a series forward and keep it alive :)       

hudsoniscool said:
If resident evil can do 2.5 million than mass effect can do 3 million.

Bro... are you serious? Resident Evil is one of the biggest and most iconic franchises in the video game industry. It influences other developers and inspires better games. It's simply one of the best game series out there hands down. I don't even know how to take your comment unless your a teenage who didn't grow up in the PS1 and Game Cube era. Even still, RE5 was a phenomenal game in terms of gameplay design. There is no doubt in my mind about that! RE6 was still a GOOD game but had a lot of flaws that many fans could not see past and design elements that were not fitting to that series, one could argue that many reviews were overly biased in their rating and their anger can be very much understood from a certain point of view. A couple years ago we got Revelations 2, which restored that faith by offering one of the best plots to date in the series and now RE7 reinvented the survival horror genre once again with a total revolution and overhaul of the gameplay mechanics like RE4 did before it. It's truly worthy of it's praise!

PS. Speaking of Resident Evil. Did you know that RE4 was a benchmark for the gameplay mechanics for ME2? That game owes a lot to RE4 as do many other games such as Gears of War, The Order of 1886 and many others.

Relax bud. I said that because I think mass effect is bigger than resident evil.  Ya Rez used to be bigger but than 6 happened. I just don't think it's as big of an ip as it once was. I'm 23 by the way.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

Airaku said:
hudsoniscool said:
If resident evil can do 2.5 million than mass effect can do 3 million.

Bro... are you serious? Resident Evil is one of the biggest and most iconic franchises in the video game industry. It influences other developers and inspires better games. It's simply one of the best game series out there hands down. I don't even know how to take your comment unless your a teenage who didn't grow up in the PS1 and Game Cube era. Even still, RE5 was a phenomenal game in terms of gameplay design. There is no doubt in my mind about that! RE6 was still a GOOD game but had a lot of flaws that many fans could not see past and design elements that were not fitting to that series, one could argue that many reviews were overly biased in their rating and their anger can be very much understood from a certain point of view. A couple years ago we got Revelations 2, which restored that faith by offering one of the best plots to date in the series and now RE7 reinvented the survival horror genre once again with a total revolution and overhaul of the gameplay mechanics like RE4 did before it. It's truly worthy of it's praise!

PS. Speaking of Resident Evil. Did you know that RE4 was a benchmark for the gameplay mechanics for ME2? That game owes a lot to RE4 as do many other games such as Gears of War, The Order of 1886 and many others.

I don't think he's talking about its quality, he's talking about it's mainstream appeal.



hudsoniscool said:

Relax bud. I said that because I think mass effect is bigger than resident evil.  Ya Rez used to be bigger but than 6 happened. I just don't think it's as big of an ip as it once was. I'm 23 by the way.

The only Resident Evil I ever bought was Resident Evil 5. And only because of Chris Redfields muscles. Haha

Angelus said:
Optimistic, but not impossible. It's got a favourable launch window, and if the game is quality, with favourable reviews, it'll move a lot of units

Allot of franchises seem to have struggled this generation. So hopefully it pulls it off. More Ass Effect is never a bad thing.
I am interested to see how a Spinoff, using Frostbite goes, I know I will probably buy a couple of copies.



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good luck

they've shown so little footage of actual in game stuff and there is practically no hype from general gamers for Mass Effect. 3 million is unlikely at launch IMO, very unlikely 



hudsoniscool said:
Airaku said:

Mass Effect gets more popular as time goes on. It's a fantastic series that deserves recognition. Andromeda will be a much easier title to sell because it's a new game that can stand on it's own with minimal bearings to the original trilogy. So it'll be easier for people to dive right in to the story with the new and improved gameplay mechanics which will help drive the series forward and offer tons of elements of fun!

I think things will be a bit more simplistic in terms of narrative design in comparisons to ME1 and ME3. Likely closer to ME2, with some complex layers and a more definite ending like ME1. People shouldn't use ME3's ending as a gauge for their purchases of Andromeda. Lessons have been learned and noted, rather the creators are in agreement with them or not.... Remember that the fans are required to drive a series forward and keep it alive :)       

Bro... are you serious? Resident Evil is one of the biggest and most iconic franchises in the video game industry. It influences other developers and inspires better games. It's simply one of the best game series out there hands down. I don't even know how to take your comment unless your a teenage who didn't grow up in the PS1 and Game Cube era. Even still, RE5 was a phenomenal game in terms of gameplay design. There is no doubt in my mind about that! RE6 was still a GOOD game but had a lot of flaws that many fans could not see past and design elements that were not fitting to that series, one could argue that many reviews were overly biased in their rating and their anger can be very much understood from a certain point of view. A couple years ago we got Revelations 2, which restored that faith by offering one of the best plots to date in the series and now RE7 reinvented the survival horror genre once again with a total revolution and overhaul of the gameplay mechanics like RE4 did before it. It's truly worthy of it's praise!

PS. Speaking of Resident Evil. Did you know that RE4 was a benchmark for the gameplay mechanics for ME2? That game owes a lot to RE4 as do many other games such as Gears of War, The Order of 1886 and many others.

Relax bud. I said that because I think mass effect is bigger than resident evil.  Ya Rez used to be bigger but than 6 happened. I just don't think it's as big of an ip as it once was. I'm 23 by the way.

I sort of disagree at this point. Mass Effect 3 left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth for Mass Effect Andromeda.  And the stuff revealed for the new title is kind of underwhelming.... .... nothing seems revolutionary and the character models still look kind of shitty (IMO)

I hate to say it but Bioware is just garbage these days

the last two installments of the Dragon Age series have been pretty mediocre, less is sometimes more, and its hard to even imagine this is the same company that made Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic (2003) and Jade Empire.

Bioware is so different than they once were, story and rich role playing elements seem so second fiddle to just making a huge world with a million fetch quests and things. Blame it on the EA effect I guess for the most part.

 

I honestly look at Dragon Age Origins and then everything that has come after and can't BELIEVE its the same developers, the quality went from sublime to so-so



hudsoniscool said:
                                         

Relax bud. I said that because I think mass effect is bigger than resident evil.  Ya Rez used to be bigger but than 6 happened. I just don't think it's as big of an ip as it once was. I'm 23 by the way.

I understand, I apologize if I came off as a little harsh. Though I do need to disagree... Mass Effect is not even remotely close to being on the level of recognition as Resident Evil in terms of sales and industry impact. Mass Effect is huge but it also spent a couple of years as an underdog title where RE blew up upon its first release. I think ME1 only topped off at about 0.98 million sales before ME2 came out and BioWare didn't see any returns on that title.... such an unfortunately underrated gem for its time. RE is ranked number 19 in the top selling video game franchises. That's more than Halo which has some of the biggest mainstream marketing schemes out there. Sure there's more RE games but remember they release a lot of spin offs and smaller titles with no marketing that sell poorly. Their mainline titles are a different story. Apparently RE5 alone has sold more than ME1 and ME2 combined to this day. I think that number speaks for it self. Just saying....


I will admit that I noticed that the Resident Evil fan base seems a little on the low side here at VGChartz. Though there's a few more dedicated forum sites for that game that are managed by a great community xD If REVII was announced for the Switch I think there would be another 20 threads popping up and it would be a different story..... uhhh that was just a joke! Don't point at me! xD =P

VGPolyglot said:
 I don't think he's talking about its quality, he's talking about it's mainstream appeal.

I agree with this statement but according to sales numbers.... that's a bit of a myth. Resident Evil does quite well and while survival horror is rarely a main stream appeal. Resident Evil is big enough, and iconic enough to perk peoples curiosity to get in on the fun. The Revelation titles with little to no marketing are catered toward the hardcore fan-base and push the core story forward while being a little more limited in supply, the spin-offs tend to tackle another market that the hardcore fans seems to not really care for. The point is that Resident Evil kind of offers something for everyone depending on the game. The mainline titles always innovate with risks that reward high pay offs! Almost every mainline title with the exception of RE6 prove this to be true.


I do agree that it's mass appeal is a bit narrow but compromises are made, and like the Soul series there is a dedicated fan base that will always back it. For all the shit Capcom gets, I have to respect that they take the risks they do and always find a way to offer something for their hardcore fans, their casually interested fans, and new fans a like. Sometimes they juggle and lose a few balls but when they hit a low, they always pick it back up and surprise us all!

mountaindewslave said:

good luck

they've shown so little footage of actual in game stuff and there is practically no hype from general gamers for Mass Effect. 3 million is unlikely at launch IMO, very unlikely 

The element of surprise is strong with BioWare. They've shown plenty over the past couple months if you've followed them. They released another trailer yesterday over Twitter and social media and went more into Cora Harper. BioWare has always employed an interesting marketing campaign which is rather a little misleading in order to reach a wide appeal. It works. It's effective and it leaves people surprised in the end. The ME3 marketing run with "Take Earth Back" gave a real military feel to the game that was absent in the context it was presented. The marketing set a tone to the hype and while we do build our EMS and take the fight to Earth. Our journey was different and quite personal. It wasn't a journey of war, it was a journey of coming together to unit against a major threat. To make peace with each other to take on what threatens all of our existence. The real meat of a BioWare game is never shown naked for the world to see. You need to buy the game to see it's real surprises.

Honestly, personal opinion of mine. The less you know about a BioWare game prior to playing it... the better! I think the game will sell more as time goes on just like the rest of the series. People start playing! Once Andromeda's marketing is up then it's time to turn our attention to....



It'll Easily 2 million from returning mass effect players alone, probably more. I can see 500k new players buying in due to the hype.

It is optimistic but quite possible.



Airaku said:
SvennoJ said:
I still haven't played ME3 yet, don't really feel like it either. ME Andromeda will need some stellar reviews to convince me it went back to form instead of more cover based shooter.


I think that's a little unfair and that you should try ME3. Personally I also happen to slightly agree with your ending statement. ME2, while was a great game. It was my least favorite for that reason. Plus the more predictable narrative structure and a more accessible appeal.... I love it but it just wasn't up to par with ME1 and ME3 which both contain far more RPG elements. ME3 in terms of game mechanics really combines the best of elements of ME1 and ME2. There's days where I debate on which game is better, ME1 or ME3? Years later it's endless in my mind because they really go full circle with each other once the game ends. As for the ending.... all I can say is that it's your story and you need to make up your own mind. Never listen to others when it comes to the ending of the ME trilogy until after you've experienced the whole journey from beginning (ME1) to end (ME3). It really is an amazing and satisfying experience in my mind. Of course I recommend you do all the side quests and really explore the world of ME if you truly want to understand the ending. The theme is something that appears to be an underappreciated thing of beauty. Something so inspiring and powerful, but it's execution may have missed the mark by being a little... too ambiguous.

ME2 was indeed a bit disappointing after the first one. The main plot felt non existent and while some of the characters were interesting, the gameplay mechanics got old pretty fast for me. I played the demo for ME3, did not like it at all. Then the whole uproar over then ending broke out which also made it practically impossible to avoid major plot spoilers. Hearing it all leads up to some nonsense deus ex machina ending was the final straw.

Since then I have read the excellent Revelation space series, which I realized is what Mass Effect is pretty much based on. Except Alastair Reynolds' original version is so much better.

I loved the first game, so I'm not ruling Andromeda out just yet. But I'm very hesitant to get back into ME. Is it going to be another start of a disappointing trilogy, or maybe a great standalone game with a new original sci-fi story. I haven't followed it at all, so no clue.