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Will it sell less than the Wii U?

Yes. This thing is looking to be a flop 133 17.85%
 
No, but it'll still sell like shit 229 30.74%
 
No, it'll sell very well... 323 43.36%
 
It'll outsell the PS4 an... 60 8.05%
 
Total:745
Nautilus said:
barneystinson69 said:

Zelda is a port too! Its coming with the Wii U! Are you seriously saying that a Wii U game coming on the Switch is better than all those games combined? Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNYOJ6qXE8

Sincerely, that is bs.First, because I read an eurogamer article of a guy that went hands on with Zelda and he said that the game runned better than the Wii U version.(Cant seem to find the article now though).Its either a really bad luck with maybe a bug the guy got, bad programming for the demo, or the unlikely chance that he is simply lying.I personally dont believe that the Switch version will be worse tecnically.

And its comming alongside the Wii U version.And for better or worse, its going to be marketed as a Switch game.Look no further than the presentation.There it was listed as a switch game, so that it dosent create confusion, and only on the Treehouse they said it was comming to Wii U on the same day.Not only that, but I also believe the physical version will be extremely limited, making this essentially a Switch game for whoever wants a physical copy.And last and most important:the general public dont have a Wii U and barely knows about it, so for them its a Switch title.And Zelda looks gorgeous, even as a cross gen title.It is going to work as long as the marketing on this device is done right.An ad on Superbowl could go a LONG way, for example.

But that is all speculation. What makes you think the Switch is getting more public attention than the Wii U? 



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

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SegataSanshiro said:
It has a bunch of portable RPGs including SMT. Likely Monster hunter. No way. This thing at the very least is a hit in Japan. Then there are these games called Splatoon (5 million on Wii U) Zelda and the most ambitious Zelda ever. Oh and a little series called Pokemon. This thing will sell better than Wii U easily

I hate to be that guy but Zelda has never been a big  seller. The Wii U had franchises on it that were much bigger. Pokémon was in Wii U as well. Nintendo is becoming known as a secondary console, until they lose that image, they'll never be top dog again. 



pokoko said:
UltimateUnknown said:

A significant portion of the Wii U audience (at least 10 million) will buy this because they are hardcore Nintendo fans.

But saying that the Switch will sell double Wii U to be a success is pretty horrendous. The Wii U+3DS sold about 80 million. If the Switch did 30 million it would be an absolute travesty considering it is the first console in Nintendo history that is both the successor to the portable and the home console market.

I think therein lies the biggest problem though. Nintendo handhelds have always been successful given their low price points. The Switch is a $300 handheld if you consider it a successor to the 3DS. Remember how bad the 3DS was doing at $250? This costs $300. There is no way the Switch at that price point sells to the same audience that bought a much cheaper 3DS (at around half that price) after price cut. At this rate it probably will do double Wii U, but that's pretty bad when you realise that this thing is supposed to be the successor of the 3DS as well which sold around 65 million.

I'm a bit confused.  I said double the Wii U would be a dismal failure.  

Though, the Switch doesn't have to sell as much as Wii U + 3DS.  The key is going to be software and the hope that the attach rate soars (which it might not).

Haha I was agreeing with you lol.

From Nintendo's perspective I can't imagine they would be at all happy if it did less than Wii U + 3DS because Wii U + 3DS tanked compared to Wii + DS. If you consider Wii and DS as being outliers, the Wii U + 3DS did much less than every other Nintendo home console and handheld combination as well.

Given that Wii U + 3DS was already down so much from previous gens, Switch doing even less, potentially half of that is a pretty massive cause for concern for Nintendo. Their home console market was already dying with the Wii U, but with the Switch's price point they might just kill their handheld market as well. There needs to be an agressive price cut at some point like the 3DS.



 

barneystinson69 said:
Nautilus said:

Sincerely, that is bs.First, because I read an eurogamer article of a guy that went hands on with Zelda and he said that the game runned better than the Wii U version.(Cant seem to find the article now though).Its either a really bad luck with maybe a bug the guy got, bad programming for the demo, or the unlikely chance that he is simply lying.I personally dont believe that the Switch version will be worse tecnically.

And its comming alongside the Wii U version.And for better or worse, its going to be marketed as a Switch game.Look no further than the presentation.There it was listed as a switch game, so that it dosent create confusion, and only on the Treehouse they said it was comming to Wii U on the same day.Not only that, but I also believe the physical version will be extremely limited, making this essentially a Switch game for whoever wants a physical copy.And last and most important:the general public dont have a Wii U and barely knows about it, so for them its a Switch title.And Zelda looks gorgeous, even as a cross gen title.It is going to work as long as the marketing on this device is done right.An ad on Superbowl could go a LONG way, for example.

But that is all speculation. What makes you think the Switch is getting more public attention than the Wii U? 

As it is your claim.

As for the why, look at the recent exposure to the brand in the last year.Pokemon Go, Super Mario Run, all those things are helping people recognize the brand, either for the first time or people that have forgotten about it.Secondly, the switch already has games that people are really excited about.Mario zelda, Splatoon, Xenoblade, etc.And neither the Wii U and 3DS had that(from the beginning) as far as I can remember.That in turn becomes into more discussion.I mean, just look at how crazy was this past few months with the Switch rumours.People say thats standard affair for new consoles launches, but I dont remember that much discussion (before launch) for XOne and PS4.

And if you want more raw data, just look at the attention Zelda got at E3, being game of the year.Nintendo also was the most discussed company for the event in social media if Im not mistaken.Not only that, but the Switch teaser trailer is almost on 24 millions views, and that just on Nintendo official youtube channel.The views on the trailers of the games that were shown in this presentations are already relatively high, and thats under 24 hours.(Mario is almost at 2 millions).

As I said, Nintendo just needs to market this.if it does, it has a chance of being very successful.Even if things like online subscription is a horrible thing.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Depends some things
How long to reduce price to 250$, 200$? seems that would be pretty soon.
If Monter hunter, pokemon, and other show up, will easily outsell wii U
Depends also on newer versions, new features.
HD rumble if used with VR can me pretty imersive, and a low cost option for PSVR(although is still no mainstream).
A smaller and cheaper version that appeal 3DS demographic would also help a lot.
best case scenario, it can sell 80 million.



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Nautilus said:
barneystinson69 said:

But that is all speculation. What makes you think the Switch is getting more public attention than the Wii U? 

As it is your claim.

As for the why, look at the recent exposure to the brand in the last year.Pokemon Go, Super Mario Run, all those things are helping people recognize the brand, either for the first time or people that have forgotten about it.Secondly, the switch already has games that people are really excited about.Mario zelda, Splatoon, Xenoblade, etc.And neither the Wii U and 3DS had that(from the beginning) as far as I can remember.That in turn becomes into more discussion.I mean, just look at how crazy was this past few months with the Switch rumours.People say thats standard affair for new consoles launches, but I dont remember that much discussion (before launch) for XOne and PS4.

And if you want more raw data, just look at the attention Zelda got at E3, being game of the year.Nintendo also was the most discussed company for the event in social media if Im not mistaken.Not only that, but the Switch teaser trailer is almost on 24 millions views, and that just on Nintendo official youtube channel.The views on the trailers of the games that were shown in this presentations are already relatively high, and thats under 24 hours.(Mario is almost at 2 millions).

As I said, Nintendo just needs to market this.if it does, it has a chance of being very successful.Even if things like online subscription is a horrible thing.

Just because nintendo releases some mobile games, people aren't going to suddenly buy the Switch. I laid out my reasons as to why I think the Switch will do poorly, and that lies down to a terrible launch. Zelda isn't going to save this. We aren't even seeing a proper Mario game for nearly 8 months after the Switch is released.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

You know all the this lot said the same as the Wii U, this thread was unneeded, answers were obvious.



barneystinson69 said:
Nautilus said:

As it is your claim.

As for the why, look at the recent exposure to the brand in the last year.Pokemon Go, Super Mario Run, all those things are helping people recognize the brand, either for the first time or people that have forgotten about it.Secondly, the switch already has games that people are really excited about.Mario zelda, Splatoon, Xenoblade, etc.And neither the Wii U and 3DS had that(from the beginning) as far as I can remember.That in turn becomes into more discussion.I mean, just look at how crazy was this past few months with the Switch rumours.People say thats standard affair for new consoles launches, but I dont remember that much discussion (before launch) for XOne and PS4.

And if you want more raw data, just look at the attention Zelda got at E3, being game of the year.Nintendo also was the most discussed company for the event in social media if Im not mistaken.Not only that, but the Switch teaser trailer is almost on 24 millions views, and that just on Nintendo official youtube channel.The views on the trailers of the games that were shown in this presentations are already relatively high, and thats under 24 hours.(Mario is almost at 2 millions).

As I said, Nintendo just needs to market this.if it does, it has a chance of being very successful.Even if things like online subscription is a horrible thing.

Just because nintendo releases some mobile games, people aren't going to suddenly buy the Switch. I laid out my reasons as to why I think the Switch will do poorly, and that lies down to a terrible launch. Zelda isn't going to save this. We aren't even seeing a proper Mario game for nearly 8 months after the Switch is released.

And I did also lay my reasoning.i dont understand why yours cant be considered a specualtion while mine is.

The mobile games are just to increase brand awareness, which is obvious it did.All that is left now is Nintendo to market the hell of the Switch so people think "Oh, isnt them the makers of that awesome game on my phone?Oh dosent that game also has the same carachter?", thus making THAT much easier to sell the game to the general public.

You need to remember that we are the minority, the ones that cares and shits on Nintendo for doing online pay, for not showing Metroid or Pikmin.For your average consumer, as long as you have a desirable products with some great software, and the perception that the product is worth the money he is asking for(because lets be real, acessories wont matter for them for launch at least, they would pick up the base bundle and the games and thats it), and they will buy it.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:
barneystinson69 said:

Just because nintendo releases some mobile games, people aren't going to suddenly buy the Switch. I laid out my reasons as to why I think the Switch will do poorly, and that lies down to a terrible launch. Zelda isn't going to save this. We aren't even seeing a proper Mario game for nearly 8 months after the Switch is released.

And I did also lay my reasoning.i dont understand why yours cant be considered a specualtion while mine is.

The mobile games are just to increase brand awareness, which is obvious it did.All that is left now is Nintendo to market the hell of the Switch so people think "Oh, isnt them the makers of that awesome game on my phone?Oh dosent that game also has the same carachter?", thus making THAT much easier to sell the game to the general public.

You need to remember that we are the minority, the ones that cares and shits on Nintendo for doing online pay, for not showing Metroid or Pikmin.For your average consumer, as long as you have a desirable products with some great software, and the perception that the product is worth the money he is asking for(because lets be real, acessories wont matter for them for launch at least, they would pick up the base bundle and the games and thats it), and they will buy it.

Well we'll see in April and May when its launch is finally over...



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

barneystinson69 said:
Nautilus said:

And I did also lay my reasoning.i dont understand why yours cant be considered a specualtion while mine is.

The mobile games are just to increase brand awareness, which is obvious it did.All that is left now is Nintendo to market the hell of the Switch so people think "Oh, isnt them the makers of that awesome game on my phone?Oh dosent that game also has the same carachter?", thus making THAT much easier to sell the game to the general public.

You need to remember that we are the minority, the ones that cares and shits on Nintendo for doing online pay, for not showing Metroid or Pikmin.For your average consumer, as long as you have a desirable products with some great software, and the perception that the product is worth the money he is asking for(because lets be real, acessories wont matter for them for launch at least, they would pick up the base bundle and the games and thats it), and they will buy it.

Well we'll see in April and May when its launch is finally over...

We will!May the best especulation wins!



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1