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Kerotan on 26 December 2016
Slade6alpha said:
Goodnightmoon said:

You came here exclusively to remark that this is a Ps4 exclusive (even when it isn't), you give 2 shits about the combat or the topic and probably you are not getting this game at all but is a console exclusive and everyone needs to know it, honestly comments like this says a lot about you.

Pretty much this. It's a known pattern. Like what was the point in even mentioning "console exclusive," so transparent. Would be like seeing an Xbox thread and posting console exclusive every time it comes up. 

I apologise for posting positive posts regarding Playstation.  Blame Sony for putting together such an awesome and unrivalled Japanese line up in the west.  It's not my fault they did such a good job.



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Libara on 26 December 2016
Slade6alpha said:
Goodnightmoon said:

You came here exclusively to remark that this is a Ps4 exclusive (even when it isn't), you give 2 shits about the combat or the topic and probably you are not getting this game at all but is a console exclusive and everyone needs to know it, honestly comments like this says a lot about you.

Pretty much this. It's a known pattern. Like what was the point in even mentioning "console exclusive," so transparent. Would be like seeing an Xbox thread and posting console exclusive every time it comes up. 

Stop bullying the insecure, can't you just let them justify their purchase in peace. And don't you ever mention how VGC has somehow changed it's view since last gen on console exclusives appearing on PC as well!



Spade on 26 December 2016
Kerotan said:
Slade6alpha said:

Pretty much this. It's a known pattern. Like what was the point in even mentioning "console exclusive," so transparent. Would be like seeing an Xbox thread and posting console exclusive every time it comes up. 

I apologise for posting positive posts regarding Playstation.  Blame Sony for putting together such an awesome and unrivalled Japanese line up in the west.  It's not my fault they did such a good job.

We all know you're just posting this shit to get a rise out of people. Whatever makes you feel good about you console of choice. Both hilarious and sad to see walking advertisements on this website for some company. 



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Kerotan on 26 December 2016
Slade6alpha said:
Kerotan said:

I apologise for posting positive posts regarding Playstation.  Blame Sony for putting together such an awesome and unrivalled Japanese line up in the west.  It's not my fault they did such a good job.

We all know you're just posting this shit to get a rise out of people. Whatever makes you feel good about you console of choice. Both hilarious and sad to see walking advertisements on this website for some company. 

Nope I'm not.  simply just happy the console I own gets the best console line up.  As a gamer it makes sense. 

 

You don't give out to those who post like me regarding pc,  Xbox or Nintendo.  So why single out me,  a playstation fan?  

 

Regardless,  I stated my position above.  I'm just a happy frog,  and a happy gamer. 



jason1637 on 26 December 2016

What ive heard seems good. What a great addition to the PS4 line up.



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KingofTrolls on 26 December 2016
jason1637 said:
What ive heard seems good. What a great addition to the PS4 line up.

Not only PS4 lineup, but yeah game looks awesome, we need more games like this one.



Kerotan on 26 December 2016
KingofTrolls said:
jason1637 said:
What ive heard seems good. What a great addition to the PS4 line up.

Not only PS4 lineup, but yeah game looks awesome, we need more games like this one.

Here here.  I always said metal gear rising needed a sequel but I guess this will do for now. 



AsGryffynn on 27 December 2016
Ka-pi96 said:
My mantra on melee combat... if it ain`t musou it ain`t worth playing

I call bullshit on that one... Seriously, as things stand, the only complaint seems to be how combat has been compartmentalized by devs in favor of adding as many combat mechanics as they are able to. Skyrim limits melee to one button to allow for the FPS mechanic, which I think was unnecessary and there were other ways to allow for it without making sword and melee fights feel underwhelming... 

But most Japanese games are either aping Monster Hunter or Tales, so it doesn't feel any better on their side either... 



Mr Puggsly on 27 December 2016
Goodnightmoon said:

And I don't understand why critics are so permissive with bad combat systems, one of the best examples is Shadow of Mordor, how did that game got such high praise with such a completely broken combat system? Is ridiculously bad and you spend most of the time doing it, I'll never understand it.

Did you actually play that game?

I completed it and had a blast.



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Mr Puggsly on 27 December 2016
Turkish said:

For any sword/melee based combat, even the best the West has to offer (thinking Witcher 3, Skyrim, AssCreed etc) have combat which just feel awful and not much better than the worst euro jank stuff. They're not better than games like Lords of Fallen, Bound By Flame or Piranha Byte games etc.

You're comparing unalike games.

I combat in Nier Automata looks more like GoW, DMC, Bayonetta, and other hack n' slash games with air juggling. Not every action game is going for that style of combat.



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