Giving up on what? Marriage, then yes, a lot in here seem to do so. But given up on relationships and or intimacy? thats another question. We can have the later without having to conform to the former. like it was said before, no need to have a goverment contract for a relationship.

The worst part is for thouse men that dont want to see reality, it takes being taken to the cleaners to realise how bad it truly is. By then its to late and they really cant turn things around. Living basicly in poverty till she remarries and/or the kid are over 18, when the man is old and has very litle to look up to after the best part of his life he spent away from the kid and living in bad conditions while still providing for the ex. wich is why the recent suicide rate for men have gone up and its being atrubuted to divorce setlements.

Don't be fooled by these misogynistic views; this is still a very patriarchal society, where man hold most of the control.

With the rise of Trump into the office, you'll see these stupid point of views be tried to passed on as facts, while in reality the problem is economic--pure and simple. The upper class, where both parties have wealth don't care about these petty problems. They gather their things and go, but most wealthy people stay married. (Please don't give me the movie star life as counter example, they are outliers and have different life styles than wealthy families based on the work they do.) Money provides mobility and freedom in America. When the middle class is shrinking, they are just looking to shove the blame to something else other than a proper working government.

It's rational for the opposite sex to look out for themselves, and if good paying jobs with benefits and retirement plans were available for the masses, there be a lot less lawsuits over who gets the car; that along proper education that starts at the home when the parent isn't working 2-3 jobs and now has time to pass down moral and ethical foundations to the next generation, so they are not easily steered by TV and "friends."

I'm not married because I haven't found the person that makes me want to marry them and because I don't make a wage big enough to raise a family, pure and simple. It's a shopping mall out there in the date scene, and there are so many options, but if I ever found someone I plainly desired and the feeling was returned, I would marry with little regret or worry about it. (Of course logistics come in to play too like; is she considerate, frugal, hard working, intelligent, and WISE. I'm sure the opposite sex is looking for the same thing, but lack of money limits our freedom.)

These stupid studies don't take into account the degradation of the family do to economic reasons. They also don't tell you how awful it was for women in the nuclear family model that is so highly fawking looked up to.

Read up on history guys before listening to this bullshit fear mongering.

Well, it is a bit, but it depends on how you look at it, I suppose. For example, I could say that it's depressing that I will likely never live in a mansion or own a lamborghini, or I could look on the bright side and consider how lucky I am to have a roof over my head, enough food to eat, clean water to drink, a job, enough money to live comfortably, and awesome friends/family.

He shouldn't. 

In my family, for instance, my Mum was the primary breadwinner, a teacher by trade, while my Dad was a househusband who cooked, cleaned, and looked after me and my little brother, while doing odd jobs on the side like builder, painter, etc. They were both satisfied in these roles and had a fulfilling and happy relationship for 30 years, without ever actually getting married.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you are in your early 20s at most, and a recent university graduate. I can say this because I'm a product of a similar educational system that probably taught the same sociological ideology (University of Calfornia system). At that age, one doesn't pull such ideas out of a vacuum or through self-realization and lived experience; they are taught and learned.

I've also studied through U. Maryland and despite some variances between East and West coast academia, they both reflect Western academia at large.

I spent 8 years in the US Army, two of which were spent overseas, so I don't feel as though my views stem from a limited perspective, but through observation of a variety of cultures, peoples and ideologies. 

If you want to see mysogeny rather than as something you read about and discuss in class or amongst like-minded individuals, I would recommend living in the Middle East or regions of Asia that are less influenced by Western ideology than say Japan, the Republic of Korea and the coastal regions of the PRC that haven't been transformed by "Shanghai wealth." 

This may reflect a failing of Western societal values if it's considered depressing or tragic that one will never live in a mansion and drive a car that costs about five times what the average person earns in a year. 

But... there is a glimmer of hope if individuals such as yourself can still appreciate that which you have and presumably see the essentials that really matter. If everyone lived in a castle and flew around via private helicopter it wouldn't exactly be a mark of success or superiority. 

Well, I guess what I was trying to convey was that it's easy to make one's self feel like crap by focussing on the things we don't have, while overlooking all the things we do have. 

There is no end to the former line of thinking. 

Those who live in mansions and drive lambos envy the guy who owns a yacht and a fleet of luxury cars with an airplane hanger to house them along with his prvately owned Gulfstream. That guy wishes he owned a private island on which to house his hangar. 

This is not say that people shouldn't have aspirations or aspire to do greater things that yield greater rewards, because I believe they absolutely should, but the rewards should follow the achievements which should be inspiration and reason for those aspirations.

Of course, aspiring to be the greatest gym teacher ever is not going to yield the same benefits as being the most prescient hedge fund manager or most innovative captain of industry. Or the most successful dictator.

Thats because most guys are gutless when truth be told. They pretend to be some sort of imaginary expectation some woman have of what a man is. True be told those women should never marry and die off. Then real women will raise future woman with realistic expectations. If you set the rules up front and be yourself, chances are if the woman can put up with you, then she will stick around for the long hall.

It is when men think with their dicks and just pick the hottest thing that says yes as their life partner were things get into trouble.

Now lets move onto non married couples. Even if you don't marry and live together and have kids then 5-10years later have a relationship breakdown. The court will still most likely compensate the woman and make you pay child support. 

People are making marriage seem like a doomsday event, when in reality it isn't. 

Thouse are things I admited myself. I already said that I havent been with a women that is as economically wel off as myself and that that was the reason Im scared. and dint lie when I said it was because I wasent looking for that. Nor was I looking for comon interest, First thing I saw was looks then everything else. I know that way will probably never get me a trustworthy and economic equal. I had no one to blame but myself. But Im level headed enoughf to not think with my dick and chose not to marry thouse girls, wich is the real problem with most men as you said. When we fall in love we dont think rationally and commit to an awful person that will hurt us down the line. Somemen even marrry young and dont have the life experience to make the right choice and end having a horrible time.

The risks are way to high for thouse who even have good intentions going in, like some said before, knew their partner for a long time and they just sudenly changed, or something happend along the way to make them hold a grudge, or just being targeted by a gold digger. The law has to make something to protect thesse individuals, men and women both fall victims to theese events, It just that men get it most of the time. Its the law that has to be updated like another poster said. Its an antient ritual that has not could not keep up with the modern era we live in.

child support is nowhere near as bad as alamony. its loosing your assets by half and paying the rest of your life 50% of your peak earnings that gets you. 

And yes, living together for over 2 years makes you comon law married and has the same consequenses. Wich is why I said in a previous post that even living with a women was out of my plans.