What is it with you Republicans inability to accept facts. Sounds like you have the same problem Reagan did after he got outed for selling MISSILES TO IRAN, he said at the time" A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not" What is with the inability to accept the truth. This is how it has worked for years: Republicans fuck up the economy then Democrats clean up the mess and improve the economy, once things start to improve Republicans take credit and promise even more if they are elected. They get elected. Then Republicans fuck up the economy again.

You know both parties foolishly embraced immigration... it wasn't until Trump became a serious contender that some republicans rallied behind him. It isn't a secret. 

For much of the Obama administration there has been a call for tougher enforcement on immigration. Obama used to boast how tough he was on it probably to appeal to the right. This is the same guy that "evolved" on gay marriage. So he wasn't above misleading people to get a vote.

Republicans fuck up the economy? How's the debt looking since Obama got in? The direction he's going isn't even sustainable.

Anywho, lets just wait and see how Trump does at job growth. Can't be much worse.

That's what left wingers don't get. We don't need him to do exactly what he promised, the direction Obama was going was shit and more importantly unsustainable. That's why much of the country said "fuck you" to Hillary.

Was Hillary gonna support a wall? No, nor would she be tough on immigration like Obama. Was Hillary going to get rid of Obama care? Nope, she's want to continue pushing something millions of working people can't afford along with an expensive penality for those uninsured. Atleast with Trump there is a chance that shit will get improved.

Hillary would have made Obama's legacy 12 horrible years. With Trump, we'll just have to wait and see.

The best defense would be Hillary wasn't gonna give us what we wanted either. However, you're jumping the gun considering Trump hasn't had the opportunity to do anything really. I mean we atleast gave Obama an opportunity to be a shitty leader.

People didn't just vote for a slogan, albeit a much better one than, "I'm with her." That's part of the issue, Hillary ran on her vagina and glass ceiling BS more than actual issues. She even pushed racism and sexism more than her experience as a politician, but maybe she had to given her record isn't so great.

Look back to previous presidents as well.

Growth under Obama hasn't been amazing and he benefiitted coming in after a crash. Jobs could only go up. He's getting credit for something he's not really responsible for.

1st bold: more people voted for Hillary. Nearly 3 million more, actually. 3 million more people voting for Hillary than Trump is a "fuck you" to Hillary?

2nd bold: Obama's legacy is gas going from over $4/gal to under $2/gal, getting 21 million more people insured, consistent job growth over the span of his presidency, the stock market more than doubling, gays getting the right to marry, unemployment going from near 8% to 4.6%, getting Bin Laden, cutting taxes for the middle class, and more. All with a Congress that stonewalled him at every turn. I don't understand the "4 more years of Obama" as a negative point on Hillary. I mean, I know Republicans have painted the picture that Obama has ruined the country and their constituency was suckered into actually believing fiction , but reality is based in facts, not in fiction. And the facts show that "4 more years of Obama" would be a good thing. That's why people say if Obama was able to run again, he'd have Reagan '84 level destroyed Trump. 

Side note: you're proving Noah and several posters in this thread to be correct, by showing that you'll defend Trump from any and all criticism, no matter what

2. You give Obama credit for things he has no real influence. 21 million got insured through higher premiums for working people and ridiculous penalties, Obamacare is unpopular for a reason. Obama got in after a market crash, so again he could only benefit from jobs going up but U-6 numbers don't look great for him. Gays getting married is fine with me and I actually like some of the changes he made to healthcare, its the Obamacare thing I don't like. You're really giving him credit for Bin Laden? Yeah, whatever. I think much of the country was ready to bail on Obama, they didn't even want the person Obama spiritual successor.

Republicans fuck up the economy? How's the debt looking since Obama got in? The direction he's going isn't even sustainable.

Anywho, lets just wait and see how Trump does at job growth. Can't be much worse.

Debt isnt an issue. In-fact, Debt is a good thing.

Debt is an awful thing if you haven't experienced how bitchy the creditors will get ... (Especially if most of you're creditors are your own citizens like the US.)

Fun fact. All that debt could all be paid, overnight. - But that would be catastrophic for your economy and would set you back decades.

We literally can't do that. If we used the M1 definition of money supply we would only have 1.2 trillion dollars worth of notes and coins on hand and that's including supply that's circulated abroad! 

Remember the USA is a sovereign nation, with intimate control over it's currency, which most other currencies in the world are pegged against.

People will get really pissed if you print lot's of notes since it'll devalue the currency ... 

What you need to look at... Is Debt to GDP ratio. Once it starts getting super crazy, then you worry, like Japan.

Nah, Debt to GDP ratio isn't at all an issue if we take a look at Luxembourg. What should be an issue is interest rates vs GDP growth cause if the former is growing at a faster pace than the latter that is when debt becomes unamangeable but another thing to factor in is whether or not a nation is a creditor like China to protect itself from debt.) 

For example... Many countries back in World War 2 took out rather significant loans for their various war efforts, these loans weren't "Tiny" some were the size of their own economy. (Aka. 100% Debt to GDP.)
The end result is, those countries didn't pay all that money back overnight, some countries are still paying those loans off... But thanks to their countries growth, that debt is less than 1% of the equivalent GDP today and is a drop in the bucket.

With that in mind... Trump wishes to spend Trillions on infrustructure, will spend Trillions/Billions on tax breaks for big business and the rich. - But Obama is somehow worse? Please.
Trickle down economics doesn't always work.

Tariffs could have a negative impact on the USA's trade as well. I know I will be less inclined to buy American goods/services, not to mention low and middle income earners will be hit harder with price increases, meaning less disposable income to help drive your economic wheels.

Hmm, considering that the US is a net importer rather than a net exporter like China I highly doubt that to be the case ... (The nation would be able to save up on hundreds of billions because eliminating trade deficits.) 

Plus the entire world isn't going to stop buying from China either, the world is a larger economy than the USA.
If the USA does reduces the amount it purchases from China due to Tariffs, the world isn't going to start buying American, we will continue to buy Chinese. You are only hurting yourselves.

What is it with you Republicans inability to accept facts. Sounds like you have the same problem Reagan did after he got outed for selling MISSILES TO IRAN, he said at the time" A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not" What is with the inability to accept the truth. This is how it has worked for years: Republicans fuck up the economy then Democrats clean up the mess and improve the economy, once things start to improve Republicans take credit and promise even more if they are elected. They get elected. Then Republicans fuck up the economy again.

It is too easy to manipulate with statistics... and people are so confident in them.

The reality is a declining labor particpation rate and 95 Mio able-bodied Americans out of a job in America.

Isn't that because we are transitioning from a manufacturing economy into a service economy?

If you're implying republicans are going to get serious about immigration unlike our previous administration, we welcome it.

Hey, Europe is becoming anti muslim in a way that makes Americans cringe and people don't blame "fascists Republicans" for that.