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Turkish on 03 December 2016
superchunk said:
Turkish said:
Have to wait until Jan 12, but the rumors of the over representation of Wii U ports (yes that includes Zelda) is not looking good.

This is such a bullshit line of thinking.

1) These are not direct wiiu ports. They are not "HD" versions. They all have a ton of new functionality based on what is seen from just the sample shots. This is not taking SMB64 and putting it on a new console. This is taking a game, putting in all existing DLC and adding a bunch more content that couldn've been its own separate DLC all while launching what is a superior platform.

2) You people weren't bitching when MSony did this for 100% of their games for the first couple years of this gen. Every single big game of PS360 was new-gen-ified and every single game launched in the first two years (maybe 1.5?) was a game built on last-gen middleware and then scaled up. Literally all of these games were just better visuals. No new content, no enhancements... nothing. Here, have this same box I sold you two years ago, but I polished the glossy finish.

NS is getting some launch year greatness. Lots of solid content and most of which we haven't even see yet. 

1) They are direct ports, with a few tweaks and additions here and there. Or let me put it this way if you have difficulty understanding me: They are Wii U games with extras, not new games built from the ground up for Switch.

2) uh yes we gave Sony and MS flak for what seemed like an eternity these last 3 years. I said multiple times how the PS4 line-up is the weakest out of all PS consoles. Also 3rd party games made up for the weak 1st party library on other consoles, a strength Nintendo lacks. It was always said how Nintendo doesn't do this remaster business and how they're always doing new stuff. Turns out they aren't any better, with ~5 (!!!) Wii U ports in the first year they're likely to go down as the worst offender even.

Legit insiders like Laura Kate Dale are questioning how much new stuff there is for those people with a 3DS and Wii U. So yeah, if they have doubts, I have doubts.



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AZWification on 03 December 2016
badgenome said:
AZWification said:

I'm disappointed in him. I was at least expecting a 20m Splatoon prediction, but nope! Completely gone.

Wii U Splatoon is not meant to be people's first choice of console shooter but a complementary one. That means for every PC, PS4, or Xbox copy of Call of Duty or Battlefield Nintendo sells a Wii U copy of Splatoon as well and in the end will outsell them all! 240m 60m at least!

This is why I'm glad you're back.



                
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zippy on 03 December 2016
hershel_layton said:
they've been interesting for quite a while. Had the Wii U not been a total flop, we could've had a better gen than the Wii/DS. Personally, i think the wii u/3ds alone are much better, but whatever

Agree. I much prefer the Wii U/3DS combo more than I did Wii/DS. I also agree with Turkish, that over representation of Wii U ports is kind of concerning me. It's affected my Decision to buy a Switch at launch and take a wait and see approach. Thankfully Nintendo made good on their Breath of the wild promise, so with that and Yooka Laylee I'm still good with my Wii U for a while.



zippy on 03 December 2016
Turkish said:
superchunk said:

This is such a bullshit line of thinking.

1) These are not direct wiiu ports. They are not "HD" versions. They all have a ton of new functionality based on what is seen from just the sample shots. This is not taking SMB64 and putting it on a new console. This is taking a game, putting in all existing DLC and adding a bunch more content that couldn've been its own separate DLC all while launching what is a superior platform.

2) You people weren't bitching when MSony did this for 100% of their games for the first couple years of this gen. Every single big game of PS360 was new-gen-ified and every single game launched in the first two years (maybe 1.5?) was a game built on last-gen middleware and then scaled up. Literally all of these games were just better visuals. No new content, no enhancements... nothing. Here, have this same box I sold you two years ago, but I polished the glossy finish.

NS is getting some launch year greatness. Lots of solid content and most of which we haven't even see yet. 

1) They are direct ports, with a few tweaks and additions here and there. Or let me put it this way if you have difficulty understanding me: They are Wii U games with extras, not new games built from the ground up for Switch.

2) uh yes we gave Sony and MS flak for what seemed like an eternity these last 3 years. I said multiple times how the PS4 line-up is the weakest out of all PS consoles. Also 3rd party games made up for the weak 1st party library on other consoles, a strength Nintendo lacks. It was always said how Nintendo doesn't do this remaster business and how they're always doing new stuff. Turns out they aren't any better, with ~5 (!!!) Wii U ports in the first year they're likely to go down as the worst offender even.

Legit insiders like Laura Kate Dale are questioning how much new stuff there is for those people with a 3DS and Wii U. So yeah, if they have doubts, I have doubts.

I also wonder if Switch will get its own versions of Smash and Mario Kart, especially as Nintendo usually do one per gen. I can't see another version of Smash for a long time seeing as how much sheer effort Sakuri and his team had to put into the Wii U version. Had Wii U been sitting on Xbox one numbers I dont think we would have seen Switch until 2018.



Turkish on 03 December 2016
zippy said:
Turkish said:

1) They are direct ports, with a few tweaks and additions here and there. Or let me put it this way if you have difficulty understanding me: They are Wii U games with extras, not new games built from the ground up for Switch.

2) uh yes we gave Sony and MS flak for what seemed like an eternity these last 3 years. I said multiple times how the PS4 line-up is the weakest out of all PS consoles. Also 3rd party games made up for the weak 1st party library on other consoles, a strength Nintendo lacks. It was always said how Nintendo doesn't do this remaster business and how they're always doing new stuff. Turns out they aren't any better, with ~5 (!!!) Wii U ports in the first year they're likely to go down as the worst offender even.

Legit insiders like Laura Kate Dale are questioning how much new stuff there is for those people with a 3DS and Wii U. So yeah, if they have doubts, I have doubts.

I also wonder if Switch will get its own versions of Smash and Mario Kart, especially as Nintendo usually do one per gen. I can't see another version of Smash for a long time seeing as how much sheer effort Sakuri and his team had to put into the Wii U version. Had Wii U been sitting on Xbox one numbers I dont think we would have seen Switch until 2018.

Yeah, Mario Kart and Smash are once a gen titles, so every ~ 6 years or so. Both the latest titles are not that old, came out 1-2 years ago, next installments should arrive around 2020.



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Soundwave on 03 December 2016
zippy said:
Turkish said:

1) They are direct ports, with a few tweaks and additions here and there. Or let me put it this way if you have difficulty understanding me: They are Wii U games with extras, not new games built from the ground up for Switch.

2) uh yes we gave Sony and MS flak for what seemed like an eternity these last 3 years. I said multiple times how the PS4 line-up is the weakest out of all PS consoles. Also 3rd party games made up for the weak 1st party library on other consoles, a strength Nintendo lacks. It was always said how Nintendo doesn't do this remaster business and how they're always doing new stuff. Turns out they aren't any better, with ~5 (!!!) Wii U ports in the first year they're likely to go down as the worst offender even.

Legit insiders like Laura Kate Dale are questioning how much new stuff there is for those people with a 3DS and Wii U. So yeah, if they have doubts, I have doubts.

I also wonder if Switch will get its own versions of Smash and Mario Kart, especially as Nintendo usually do one per gen. I can't see another version of Smash for a long time seeing as how much sheer effort Sakuri and his team had to put into the Wii U version. Had Wii U been sitting on Xbox one numbers I dont think we would have seen Switch until 2018.

Nintendo likes money so yes. 

Now that Nintendo has broken the console-portable distinction line, I think basically what you'll see is a change to two Mario Karts, and two Smash Bros, etc. each generation. 

Switch will get Mario Kart 8.5, but also its own Mario Kart 9. No way Nintendo leaves that much money sitting on the table (last gen they had Mario Kart 7 and 8, if you only have one of them, you lose millions in sales). 



hershel_layton on 03 December 2016
zippy said:
hershel_layton said:
they've been interesting for quite a while. Had the Wii U not been a total flop, we could've had a better gen than the Wii/DS. Personally, i think the wii u/3ds alone are much better, but whatever

Agree. I much prefer the Wii U/3DS combo more than I did Wii/DS. I also agree with Turkish, that over representation of Wii U ports is kind of concerning me. It's affected my Decision to buy a Switch at launch and take a wait and see approach. Thankfully Nintendo made good on their Breath of the wild promise, so with that and Yooka Laylee I'm still good with my Wii U for a while.

the thing is, I'd love to start a console with games we aleady know are great. Not only are they improvements over their mobile counterparts(mk7, no splatoon on mobile, etc), but the people who avoided the Wii U now have solid titles to start with.



 

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TorterraBoy on 03 December 2016
HintHRO said:
I want to believe they are making a comeback, but they've also released trash like SF0, Color Splash and Farce very recently. The new Pikmin looks ugly and boring too. This suggests they still don't understand the consumer.
On the other hand, Zelda looks great and the first Switch trailer was really well made. Their current marketing strategy is more Sony-like but less agressive, which I like. I hope they continue to learn from their mistakes. I guess we will see on January 12.

Color splash was good



Kai_Mao on 03 December 2016
Turkish said:
zippy said:

I also wonder if Switch will get its own versions of Smash and Mario Kart, especially as Nintendo usually do one per gen. I can't see another version of Smash for a long time seeing as how much sheer effort Sakuri and his team had to put into the Wii U version. Had Wii U been sitting on Xbox one numbers I dont think we would have seen Switch until 2018.

Yeah, Mario Kart and Smash are once a gen titles, so every ~ 6 years or so. Both the latest titles are not that old, came out 1-2 years ago, next installments should arrive around 2020.

That's the thing. The Switch isn't coming out in 2018 or '19, it's coming in a few months. Nintendo can't afford to wait for a completely new smash bros and Mario Kart. Plus whatever happens to the next installment of Smash, for a pretty good amount of people, it'll be tough to leave behind the roster we have right now. The Wii U/3DS installments probably have, arguably, the greatest crossover of game characters ever (no offense to MvC fans, just mainly about video game characters). It'll be hard to match such a roster. Mario Kart I guess can get more improvements feature-wise but the gameplay seems to be down and pat.



Lonely_Dolphin on 03 December 2016
TorterraBoy said:
HintHRO said:
I want to believe they are making a comeback, but they've also released trash like SF0, Color Splash and Farce very recently. The new Pikmin looks ugly and boring too. This suggests they still don't understand the consumer.
On the other hand, Zelda looks great and the first Switch trailer was really well made. Their current marketing strategy is more Sony-like but less agressive, which I like. I hope they continue to learn from their mistakes. I guess we will see on January 12.

Color splash was good

 

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