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SegataSanshiro said:
onionberry said:
Inb4 Yeah we will see, they said the same thing about the wii u

No not really. They were fairly critical of Wii U.

Not initially:

https://gamerant.com/take-two-interactive-no-ports-wii-u-tao-92492/

“It is an HD platform that has the processing power to develop a compelling triple experience. If it takes hold of the market, that is good for us. So from that perspective, we are very excited about that.”

Wii U also had NBA 2K for launch. No one bought it. 



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Jranation said:
Having Mario + Zelda + Pokemon in the 1st year will definitely help these third parties stay on board.

Yup, those games are all system seller and that means that Switch will actually sell in 1st year compared to Wii U for instance.



Soundwave said:
SegataSanshiro said:

No not really. They were fairly critical of Wii U.

Not initially:

https://gamerant.com/take-two-interactive-no-ports-wii-u-tao-92492/

“It is an HD platform that has the processing power to develop a compelling triple experience. If it takes hold of the market, that is good for us. So from that perspective, we are very excited about that.”

Wii U also had NBA 2K for launch. No one bought it. 

That was said at least one year before Wii U launch while this is said 3-4 monts before launch, also they didn't said anything about Nintendo 3rd party effort, and now with Switch they specified said: "The folks at Nintendo are making a great effort to support third-party developers".



Miyamotoo said:
Jranation said:
Having Mario + Zelda + Pokemon in the 1st year will definitely help these third parties stay on board.

Yup, those games are all system seller and that means that Switch will actually sell in 1st year compared to Wii U for instance.

Does that mean those people are actually going to buy NBA 2K though? That's the bigger issue. 

Even the 3DS struggled with this and lost a lot of third party support from its early days. Where are all the 3DS Resident Evil games now? Even got locked out of RE Revelations 2. No more Metal Gear, Kingdom Hearts, Ridge Racer, Tekken, Street Fighter, etc. and baiscally nothing from Western 3rd parties other than Lego. EA stopped with things like FIFA ages ago. 

It's all basically Monster Hunter, Yokai Watch, and a handful of other IP, but nothing else. 

Nintendo's userbase has some complicity here, they don't bother supporting anything other than same old Nintendo franchises and even many of those they don't support. Unfortuantely I think the Nintendo fanbase has become conditioned to basically only be interested in like 8 franchises or so, almost anything else is a very tough sell. That's what happens when you don't have third party support for like 15 years. 



Soundwave said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yup, those games are all system seller and that means that Switch will actually sell in 1st year compared to Wii U for instance.

Does that mean those people are actually going to buy NBA 2K though? That's the bigger issue. 

Even the 3DS struggled with this and lost a lot of third party support from its early days. Where are all the 3DS Resident Evil games now? Even got locked out of RE Revelations 2. No more Metal Gear, Kingdom Hearts, Ridge Racer, Tekken, Street Fighter, etc. and baiscally nothing from Western 3rd parties other than Lego. EA stopped with things like FIFA ages ago. 

It's all basically Monster Hunter, Yokai Watch, and a handful of other IP, but nothing else. 

Nintendo's userbase has some complicity here, they don't bother supporting anything other than same old Nintendo franchises and even many of those they don't support. 

A way to deal with that would be for continues bundle with 3rd party and Nintendo's one. Two bundle options could help.

I would have done a continues EA Sports bundle in a long NS switch support deal along side the expected Nintendo ones. That might be a good start for expanding that audience or recapture it.



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Nogamez said:
hmm more PR talk or is ninty on to something with Switch? Role on january

every new nintendo console this happends.



Remember, we only got praises from Ubisoft for Wii U, Take 2, Bethesda weren't too optimistic about Wii U. To see this turnaround is very interesting. I'm not interested in T2's content but the more the better. Switch is shaping up to be something really special I think. Can't wait to hear more about.



Ljink96 said:
Remember, we only got praises from Ubisoft for Wii U, Take 2, Bethesda weren't too optimistic about Wii U. To see this turnaround is very interesting. I'm not interested in T2's content but the more the better. Switch is shaping up to be something really special I think. Can't wait to hear more about.

The same exact guy said Take 2 was "very, very excited" by Wii U. 

The Wii U also had NBA 2K13 at launch. And even NBA 2K14 I think. 



Same thing was said about Wii U too.



Soundwave said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yup, those games are all system seller and that means that Switch will actually sell in 1st year compared to Wii U for instance.

Does that mean those people are actually going to buy NBA 2K though? That's the bigger issue. 

Even the 3DS struggled with this and lost a lot of third party support from its early days. Where are all the 3DS Resident Evil games now? Even got locked out of RE Revelations 2. No more Metal Gear, Kingdom Hearts, Ridge Racer, Tekken, Street Fighter, etc. and baiscally nothing from Western 3rd parties other than Lego. EA stopped with things like FIFA ages ago. 

It's all basically Monster Hunter, Yokai Watch, and a handful of other IP, but nothing else. 

Nintendo's userbase has some complicity here, they don't bother supporting anything other than same old Nintendo franchises and even many of those they don't support. Unfortuantely I think the Nintendo fanbase has become conditioned to basically only be interested in like 8 franchises or so, almost anything else is a very tough sell. That's what happens when you don't have third party support for like 15 years. 

Clear logic says that games will sell better if platform is more popular and install base is better than if we have another Wii U situation.

3DS hardware is very week, most of developers didn't want to bother with such weak hardware, Switch is incomparible stronger than 3DS and actual 3rd party game can run on it.