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barneystinson69 on 25 November 2016
jason1637 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Again, according to? You must be expecting an absolute crushing BF for the X1. What I'm not getting is how you're drawing these conslusions. Based on what sources (Black Friday isn't only about Amazon)?

This, all the while, still minimizes the pre-orders. 

On Amazon last year during black Friday the ranking were

#01 PS4 Nathan Drake Bundle (same)
#05 XB1 Gears Bundle (same)
#06 3DS Mario Land Bundle (same)
#12 PS4 Nathan Drake Digital Bundle (down 1)
#20 XB1 Three Games Bundle (up 6)
#21 PS4 Star Wars Standard Bundle (up 4)
#31 XB1 Fallout Bundle (down 11)
#36 PS4 Black Ops Bundle (down 1)
#43 XB1 Lego Bundle (same)
#64 XB1 FIFA Bundle (up 6)

 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7634357

Right now its

#1 PS4 UC4

#11 XB1S Minecraft

#14 XB1S BF1

#27 3DS Lime

#33 XB1S BF1 SE

#59 PS4Pro

#74 XB1S Gears 4

#85 3DS XL

#95 Wii U

#99 3DS

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_bs#5

Last year there were four four PS4 bundles with the top 100 not there is only 2. And one of them is ranking lower than all the other PS4 bundles last year.

Im not expecting a huge blowout for XB1 during black Friday but it looks like it could take black Friday and close the gap for most of the month. But I still think the PS4 will edge it out.

The XB1S is doing better than the PS4 in Bestbuy, Walmart, and its close in target but with an edge to the PS4. It's winning Gamestop but its probably not as reliable considering that the Wii U is doing better than the 3DS/XB1.

Gamestop- http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=28-xu0

Best Buy- http://tinyurl.com/lmz5wg4

Target- http://www.target.com/c/video-games/-/N-5xtg5?Nao=0&sortBy=bestselling (scroll down and sort it by best sellers)

Walmart- https://www.walmart.com/browse/video-games/2636?cat_id=2636&facet=video_game_platform:PlayStation%204%7C%7Cvideo_game_platform:Xbox%20One

Thanks for these stats. Hard to access them when you're in Canada.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

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celador on 25 November 2016
jason1637 said:
celador said:

PS4 doesn't need to win by 300k, 400k, 500k to be successful, if it hits 1.5m again this November then that is a great figure. Remember the situation is no different from last year, with popular PS4 Special Editions for Cod and Battlefront pushing sales into Novemeber just like the Pro has been this year. I'm not sure people realise just how good 1.5m in November is historically. BF in the US is far more important for Microsoft than Sony anyway.

As for who is doing better right now, it's hard to tell. X1 may have the next two bundles after the Slim, but that PS4 bundle is first and we don't know how much by. Saying X1 is therefore winning is pure guesswork. The next update to the monthly and yearly charts will tell us far more.

That wouldn't be really good. WW PS4 has been down since march, and its been down in the US for about 5 months.

It would match one of the best November performances ever. So yeah it would be good. PS4 doesn't need to be up to sell great this year, Xbox does



jason1637 on 25 November 2016
celador said:
jason1637 said:

On Amazon last year during black Friday the ranking were

#01 PS4 Nathan Drake Bundle (same)
#05 XB1 Gears Bundle (same)
#06 3DS Mario Land Bundle (same)
#12 PS4 Nathan Drake Digital Bundle (down 1)
#20 XB1 Three Games Bundle (up 6)
#21 PS4 Star Wars Standard Bundle (up 4)
#31 XB1 Fallout Bundle (down 11)
#36 PS4 Black Ops Bundle (down 1)
#43 XB1 Lego Bundle (same)
#64 XB1 FIFA Bundle (up 6)

 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7634357

Right now its

#1 PS4 UC4

#11 XB1S Minecraft

#14 XB1S BF1

#27 3DS Lime

#33 XB1S BF1 SE

#59 PS4Pro

#74 XB1S Gears 4

#85 3DS XL

#95 Wii U

#99 3DS

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_bs#5

Last year there were four four PS4 bundles with the top 100 not there is only 2. And one of them is ranking lower than all the other PS4 bundles last year.cat_id=2636&facet=video_game_platform:PlayStation%204%7C%7Cvideo_game_platform:Xbox%20One

Looks like Xbox One is doing worse too then.

One less bundle in the top 100. Top bundle below last years top bundle

Could be but it's doing a lot closer to what it did last year compared to the PS4.



wonnepropp on 25 November 2016
jason1637 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Again, according to? You must be expecting an absolute crushing BF for the X1. What I'm not getting is how you're drawing these conslusions. Based on what sources (Black Friday isn't only about Amazon)?

This, all the while, still minimizes the pre-orders. 

On Amazon last year during black Friday the ranking were

#01 PS4 Nathan Drake Bundle (same)
#05 XB1 Gears Bundle (same)
#06 3DS Mario Land Bundle (same)
#12 PS4 Nathan Drake Digital Bundle (down 1)
#20 XB1 Three Games Bundle (up 6)
#21 PS4 Star Wars Standard Bundle (up 4)
#31 XB1 Fallout Bundle (down 11)
#36 PS4 Black Ops Bundle (down 1)
#43 XB1 Lego Bundle (same)
#64 XB1 FIFA Bundle (up 6)

Coreect

Last year November Rankings at Amazon:
PS4 NDC bundle (phys. copy): #1
XBO Gears bundle: #8
PS4 Star Wars basic bundle: #15
XBO 1TB Holiday bundle: #23
Wii U MK8 bundle: #29
PS4 COD bundle: #31
PS4 NDC bundle: #42
XBO Fallout 4 bundle: #44
PS4 Star Wars LE bundle: #59
3DS XL Mario bundle: #99

Last year Black Friday Week Rankings at Amazon:

PS4 NDC bundle (phys. copy): #1
XBO Gears bundle: #5
PS4 Star Wars basic bundle: #19
XBO 1TB Holiday bundle: #22
PS4 COD bundle: #57

 

Ps4 outsold XB1 by 14% in November NPD
Right now Ps4 is performing way worse even on Amazon alone




celador on 25 November 2016
jason1637 said:
celador said:

Looks like Xbox One is doing worse too then.

One less bundle in the top 100. Top bundle below last years top bundle

Could be but it's doing a lot closer to what it did last year compared to the PS4.

Maybe. Like I said before, the monthly and yearly charts will be the ones to check when they next update



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GribbleGrunger on 25 November 2016

3 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#01 PS4s UC4 Bundle (same)
#11 XB1s-500gb Minecraft Bundle (up 7)
#14 XB1s-500gb Battlefield Bundle (up 3)
#27 N3DSXL Lime (up 2)
#33 XB1s-1tb Battflield Bundle (up 4)
#59 PS4 Pro (up 9)
#74 XB1s-1tb Gears Bundle (up 18)
#85 N3DSXL Black (re-entry)
#98 WiiU Mario Kart Bundle (re-entry)
#99 N3DS Mario Black (down 24)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
Nothing at the moment

PS4: 2 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 1 in the top 5
XB1: 4 in the top 100 / 3 in the top 50 / 2 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5



 

The PS5 Exists. 


jason1637 on 25 November 2016
celador said:
jason1637 said:

That wouldn't be really good. WW PS4 has been down since march, and its been down in the US for about 5 months.

It would match one of the best November performances ever. So yeah it would be good. PS4 doesn't need to be up to sell great this year, Xbox does

If it sells on par with last year then overall it will be done this year. This could mean that last year was the PS4s peak or that the XB1S is taking some of the PS4s momentum if it's up overall, and the PS4 is down. Also if it's down this year it will definitely be down next year unless Sony does a price cut before Fall.



wonnepropp on 25 November 2016
Swordmasterman said:
wonnepropp said:

 

Neither of the 2 have good bundles. I don't play shooter games but it is clear that majority of the Internet thinks that Battlefield is better than Cod, atleast this year. But  Battlefield will sell  less than what Cod will on the USA. 

Gears sold a lot of bundles, but the PS4's Uncharted bundle outsold it in the month of launch.

 

This year, the stores and their internal deals  i will make a console the winner of Black Friday. And we probably have 200-400K  of Pro's Pre-order, that with the fact tht the Pro had a very good lead early this month.

What?
your personal preference does not matter here....

BF1 is the biggest multiplatform game this holiday
Gears is the biggest first party exclusive game this holiday (year pokemon, but that is handheld)
Minecraft is the biggest kids / family friendls game this holiday (yeah it's the biggest every year, but the first time bundeld massively)    

XB1 bundel offering this year is arguably the best ever



Swordmasterman on 25 November 2016
celador said:
jason1637 said:

Could be but it's doing a lot closer to what it did last year compared to the PS4.

Maybe. Like I said before, the monthly and yearly charts will be the ones to check when they next update

We will need to wait over 3 days in order to see Black Friday's effect.



propperwonne on 25 November 2016
CGI-Quality said:
jason1637 said:

On Amazon last year during black Friday the ranking were:

 Okay, and? Why are you boiling all of this down to one day , while leaving out that there was no Pro last year?

didn't know you're a sony fanboy. explains alot of your anger
why not make peace finally and stop the madness?