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Nintendo NX rumor: Twice the power of a PS4?

Never gonna happen 223 77.70%
 
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bunchanumbers said:
I believe it. These rumors are far more plausible than a weak 720p tablet with a dongle.

Yes because the DS, 3DS, Wii, and Wii U were all such cutting edge machines, Nintendo releasing something that isn't high end tech wise is unfathomable. 



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Soundwave said:
bunchanumbers said:
I believe it. These rumors are far more plausible than a weak 720p tablet with a dongle.

Yes because the DS, 3DS, Wii, and Wii U were all such cutting edge machines, Nintendo releasing something that isn't high end tech wise is unfathomable. 

3rd party devs wouldn't be excited for a 720p tablet with removable controller pieces. Especially if that tablet is a fraction of the power of the Xbox One. Handheld power is going to be important compared to back then. Phones will already outclass whatever NX is if it is a 720p tablet. And even if it doesn't, the phones will outclass it in a year or two.



bunchanumbers said:
Soundwave said:

Yes because the DS, 3DS, Wii, and Wii U were all such cutting edge machines, Nintendo releasing something that isn't high end tech wise is unfathomable. 

3rd party devs wouldn't be excited for a 720p tablet with removable controller pieces. Especially if that tablet is a fraction of the power of the Xbox One. Handheld power is going to be important compared to back then. Phones will already outclass whatever NX is if it is a 720p tablet. And even if it doesn't, the phones will outclass it in a year or two.

So how do you explain the Wii U and 3DS? Both of those were severely underpowered compared to their direct competition and Nintendo could not possibly have cared less. What makes you think Nintendo is making something like their version of the PS4?



Soundwave said:
bunchanumbers said:
I believe it. These rumors are far more plausible than a weak 720p tablet with a dongle.

Yes because the DS, 3DS, Wii, and Wii U were all such cutting edge machines, Nintendo releasing something that isn't high end tech wise is unfathomable. 

PS4 isn't cutting edge. Even the Pro isn't breaking boundaries. 



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I belive this. This is always what I thought since they anounce the nx plan of a shared library. a hand held and a console witch use the same games, so the only inovation would be both using the same cartridege, one with better resolution than the other and thats it.

all the portable will have is an hdmi cabe to play on the big screen. if the controlers are detachable then it makes sense for there to be a docking station that only charges the deevice and probably a fan to cool it so it can clock a litle higher.

For this rumor to be true though, they would need to release the handheld this march as schedule and the home console in the holidays when the 2xps4 gpu would be cheaper, still the weakest of the 3 but enoughf for third partys to port.



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TheLastStarFighter said:
Soundwave said:

Yes because the DS, 3DS, Wii, and Wii U were all such cutting edge machines, Nintendo releasing something that isn't high end tech wise is unfathomable. 

PS4 isn't cutting edge. Even the Pro isn't breaking boundaries. 

A $400 device in 2016 being able to render at 4K resolutions, even if it has to do checkerboard renderding is pretty high end. For $400 you show me something a lot better available this fall. 



eva01beserk said:
I belive this. This is always what I thought since they anounce the nx plan of a shared library. a hand held and a console witch use the same games, so the only inovation would be both using the same cartridege, one with better resolution than the other and thats it.

all the portable will have is an hdmi cabe to play on the big screen. if the controlers are detachable then it makes sense for there to be a docking station that only charges the deevice and probably a fan to cool it so it can clock a litle higher.

For this rumor to be true though, they would need to release the handheld this march as schedule and the home console in the holidays when the 2xps4 gpu would be cheaper, still the weakest of the 3 but enoughf for third partys to port.

This is a nice fantasy but it won't work in reality.

For a "shared library" to work, the handheld and console are going to have to be close in power. 

And portables don't need cables to stream to a TV these days. 

People really don't put any thought into the portable at all, this is the problem with the SMD64 crowd, the portable is just "oh we'll just slap something together". No you can't do that. The portable has to be the base for all games if it's a "shared" ecosystem, my guess is Nintendo actually having to do practical real world R&D realized this and from that the hybrid concept took over. 

Because if the two devices have to be close in power, then you are really not getting anywhere forcing people to buy a completely seperate console and handheld just to play the same games. You might as well make one device that can play both at home and on the go. 

Most Nintendo fans even do not buy the Nintendo console even with its own exclusives (80% of GBA buyers did not buy a GCN, 80% of 3DS owners did not buy a Wii U, Wii got away with it due to the Wiimote craze), so why are they going to now buy a seperate console that has the same games? Very few people aside from the same group of 15 million Nintendo console die-hards will do this (probably even less). 



Soundwave said:
TheLastStarFighter said:

PS4 isn't cutting edge. Even the Pro isn't breaking boundaries. 

A $400 device in 2016 being able to render at 4K resolutions, even if it has to do checkerboard renderding is pretty high end. For $400 you show me something a lot better available this fall. 

For $400 it's quite reasonable and modern.  And that's the approach Nintendo has traditionally taken.  It was only with Sony and MS jumping the gun into HD and selling loss-leading machines at high prices pushing $600 more than a decade ago that Nintendo veared.  Today's Playstations are similar to the Nintendo approach up to Wii, where they use tech a few years old and sell it at a reasonable price, at a profit.  Both Iwata and Miyamoto made it clear they need to offer products that appeal to the Western, core gamer who enjoys consoles.  I expect NX to offer something for this market.  A gaming tablet is not it.



TheLastStarFighter said:
Soundwave said:

A $400 device in 2016 being able to render at 4K resolutions, even if it has to do checkerboard renderding is pretty high end. For $400 you show me something a lot better available this fall. 

For $400 it's quite reasonable and modern.  And that's the approach Nintendo has traditionally taken.  It was only with Sony and MS jumping the gun into HD and selling loss-leading machines at high prices pushing $600 more than a decade ago that Nintendo veared.  Today's Playstations are similar to the Nintendo approach up to Wii, where they use tech a few years old and sell it at a reasonable price, at a profit.  Both Iwata and Miyamoto made it clear they need to offer products that appeal to the Western, core gamer who enjoys consoles.  I expect NX to offer something for this market.  A gaming tablet is not it.

The Nintendo of the early/mid 1990s is dead. 

I think the sooner people accept this, the sooner reality will set in. Howard Lincoln, Minoru Arakawa, Hiroshi Yamauchi, etc are not in leadership positions anymore. 

I believe once Microsoft AND Sony both became successful in the game business, Nintendo realized there was no point in competing head on with power, because Sony/MS have so much money they would just one up Nintendo sooner than later and it's a pissing match Nintendo did not want to be in. You money-hat an exclusive, and MS will money-hat something else for even more money, and now you have to pay even more money to money-hat the next game. And on and on it goes, Nintendo realized this and I believe Mr. Yamauchi drilled into Mr. Iwata not to copy MS/Sony because it's a dead end. 

The days when Nintendo was competing against just Sega (a company much smaller than Nintendo) and Sony, which was relatively young in the business, are long since over. The reality of the market today is very different. 

Even towards the middle of the GameCube generation, Nintendo (Iwata and Yamauchi) expressed extreme frustration at hardware all being the same and games being available on all systems. What Nintendo fans don't understand is Nintendo *does not want* to be the same as the other two (for better or worse).