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Nintendo NX rumor: Twice the power of a PS4?

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Wyrdness said:
Soundwave said:

Look if you want to believe in some super powerful 4 TFLOP NX, be my guest. Just don't come here complaining later on that you didn't get what you wanted when there were plenty of indicators otherwise. 

I said the same thing earlier in the year when a certain group of Nintendo fans steadfastly refused to believe Nintendo would not support the Wii U for a full 5 years (because other Nintendo consoles have been supported that long). I've learned there's a certain stubborness to the point of blocking out even obvious facts to want to believe, but I will say those posters then came back and started complaining that they didn't get what they wanted, even though I told them like 50 times that Nintendo had basically given up on the Wii U and there were multiple credible sources stating as much (like Nikkei). 

I do suspect actually that even if Nintendo shows the NX to be a hybrid a certain "stubborn" section of the Nintendo fanbase will continue to hold out hope for a "real console NX" that will have PS4 Pro-type specs. Some people are never going to let that go. 

No dude my view is that it's plausible they use competent specs if the platform is not a hybrid you're the one right now hung up on Tegra because some person you admire at IGN bandwagoned on a rumour so you can't be moaning about stubborness as you're the worst offender in that aspect other rumours can be plausible as well. Your arguments with other people don't concern me as no matter what NX turns out to be is not a big issue to me as I'm open to it turning out different something I'm not sure is the same for yourself as the are indicators that suggest it's not a Tegra powered hybrid like you're pushing.

I'm "hung up" on Tegra because several credible sources are saying that and no credible source has come forward to say "no guys, that's wrong" (which would be simple enough to do). 

The Tegra hybrid is not what I would personally design or want either, but I've been around "the game" of following Nintendo for long enough to know what I (or you) want doesn't mean shit. 

And there are plenty of rational reasons to combine the portable and console into one device. Nintendo fans as is barely choose to buy the console even when the Wii U is like 50x more powerful than a 3DS with many of its own exclusives. Who the fuck really is going to go rushing to buy a "shared library" Nintendo console that has no exclusives and the graphics gap is maybe 3 or 4 to 1 (can't be much larger than that otherwise game engines simply aren't going to run properly across devices). 

Again not what *I* would personally make though, so you can put that little puppy to sleep right now. I'm not advocating for this, but this is apparently the direction Nintendo has chosen. And no amount of crying, bitching, complaining is going to change that. If Nintendo didn't change Toon Link back to the "realistic Link", there's no amount of backlash that will get them to change their mind on something before they try it. 



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Soundwave said:

I'm "hung up" on Tegra because several credible sources are saying that and no credible source has come forward to say "no guys, that's wrong" (which would be simple enough to do). 

The Tegra hybrid is not what I would personally design or want either, but I've been around "the game" of following Nintendo for long enough to know what I (or you) want doesn't mean shit. 

And there are plenty of rational reasons to combine the portable and console into one device. Nintendo fans as is barely choose to buy the console even when the Wii U is like 100x more powerful than a 3DS with many of its own exclusives. Who the fuck really is going to go rushing to buy a "shared library" Nintendo console that has no exclusives and the graphics gap is maybe 3 or 4 to 1 (can't be much larger than that otherwise game engines simply aren't going to run properly across devices). 

Again not what *I* would personally make though, so you can put that little puppy to sleep right now. I'm not advocating for this, but this is apparently the direction Nintendo has chosen. And no amount of crying, bitching, complaining is going to change that. If Nintendo didn't change Toon Link back to the "realistic Link", there's no amount of backlash that will get them to change their mind on something before they try it. 

You are hung up on it which is why you jump on any person who doesn't buy it whether its another user or people like SMD because God forbid they think another claim is plausible, a hybrid has several key problems that

All you know of Nintendo's direction is that they're inspired by IOS and Android and plan to make their platforms like brothers so claiming Tegar like it's fact is just OTT because if the rumour is wrong you're just going to look silly along with EG which is why many of us are more focused on whether a rumour is plausible. Who's going to buy the console variant you ask how about those who don't really want to game on the go, that's the whole point of the family of devices approach each device is for a specific type of person, I'd bet you Wii U would have sold much more if it had a shared library with no exclusives.

Funny you mentioned Link because look at the game that followed WW so that's not a good example, they're not looking at backlash but they sure as hell need a set up that is plausible with less flaws than the Wii U and a hybrid has more direct issues than a family of devices under one ecosystem which is why people question the hybrid rumours.



Wyrdness said:
Soundwave said:

I'm "hung up" on Tegra because several credible sources are saying that and no credible source has come forward to say "no guys, that's wrong" (which would be simple enough to do). 

The Tegra hybrid is not what I would personally design or want either, but I've been around "the game" of following Nintendo for long enough to know what I (or you) want doesn't mean shit. 

And there are plenty of rational reasons to combine the portable and console into one device. Nintendo fans as is barely choose to buy the console even when the Wii U is like 100x more powerful than a 3DS with many of its own exclusives. Who the fuck really is going to go rushing to buy a "shared library" Nintendo console that has no exclusives and the graphics gap is maybe 3 or 4 to 1 (can't be much larger than that otherwise game engines simply aren't going to run properly across devices). 

Again not what *I* would personally make though, so you can put that little puppy to sleep right now. I'm not advocating for this, but this is apparently the direction Nintendo has chosen. And no amount of crying, bitching, complaining is going to change that. If Nintendo didn't change Toon Link back to the "realistic Link", there's no amount of backlash that will get them to change their mind on something before they try it. 

You are hung up on it which is why you jump on any person who doesn't buy it whether its another user or people like SMD because God forbid they think another claim is plausible, a hybrid has several key problems that

All you know of Nintendo's direction is that they're inspired by IOS and Android and plan to make their platforms like brothers so claiming Tegar like it's fact is just OTT because if the rumour is wrong you're just going to look silly along with EG which is why many of us are more focused on whether a rumour is plausible. Who's going to buy the console variant you ask how about those who don't really want to game on the go, that's the whole point of the family of devices approach each device is for a specific type of person, I'd bet you Wii U would have sold much more if it had a shared library with no exclusives.

Funny you mentioned Link because look at the game that followed WW so that's not a good example, they're not looking at backlash but they sure as hell need a set up that is plausible with less flaws than the Wii U and a hybrid has more direct issues than a family of devices under one ecosystem which is why people question the hybrid rumours.

SMD64 has opened himself to criticism because he's been pushing a theory for like 6+ months now with no proof. At this point I think even he might suspect deep down he's wrong, but he's getting views to his Youtube channel so he's milking it and that's the most annoying thing about Nintendo taking so damn long to unveil this thing. 

The best thing about the NX reveal will be having people like that get their channels basically shut down because no one is going to care what they think once we have the official story. 

Disagree with your assetment of a "shared library" Wii U ... if Splatoon and Mario Kart 8 and Mario 3D World were on the 3DS and the graphics were similar (not quite as good but close enough) I think the Wii U would've sold *even worse*. 

Many people are going to say "screw that" if you ask them to pay $250-$300+ more to basically to play the same handheld games but just on the TV. The handheld itself should be able to display games on the TV ... my guess is Nintendo realized this too in the design process and opted to go the hybrid approach. With the way technology is today there's no reason to force people to have to buy two seperate pieces of hardware to do what Nintendo wants. 



Soundwave said:
TheLastStarFighter said:

Who says they are?  I'm just saying the device they are about to reveal is not a handheld.  Not in the sense you're saying, anyway.

Based on what source? Just because that's not what you want it to be doesn't mean anything. 

I bet you didn't want the Wii to be an overclocked GameCube and the Wii U to only be PS3/360 in power either if asked in 2005 and 2011. 

Nintendo does not care what anyone on this board thinks when it comes to their design philosophies. 

Some trusted sources.  And beyond those, there have been actual, real, involved people referring to it as a home console with portable element, rather than a tablet you connect.  Patents, too. And check out this latest patent from the Prophet: 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8095897

Perhaps that will help you understand the actual NX concept. 

 

As for what I want, etc?  No, this isn't what I want.  I'll take scorpio-powered system with SNES pads but I don't expect that.  I did, contrary to what your saying, really like the Wii concept and loved the system, however.  But that was when I didn't have an HDTV and Sony and MS were charging ridiculous prices for systems that were still sold at a loss.  Times are different now.  I'd enjoy a home console with innovation - and NX will have that - but it does need to be in the realm of other systems releasing in the coming year.  2.5TF will do that.



Soundwave said:

SMD64 has opened himself to criticism because he's been pushing a theory for like 6+ months now with no proof. At this point I think even he might suspect deep down he's wrong, but he's getting views to his Youtube channel so he's milking it and that's the most annoying thing about Nintendo taking so damn long to unveil this thing. 

The best thing about the NX reveal will be having people like that get their channels basically shut down because no one is going to care what they think once we have the official story. 

Disagree with your assetment of a "shared library" Wii U ... if Splatoon and Mario Kart 8 and Mario 3D World were on the 3DS and the graphics were similar (not quite as good but close enough) I think the Wii U would've sold *even worse*. 

Many people are going to say "screw that" if you ask them to pay $250-$300+ more to basically to play the same handheld games but just on the TV. The handheld itself should be able to display games on the TV ... my guess is Nintendo realized this too in the design process and opted to go the hybrid approach. With the way technology is today there's no reason to force people to have to buy two seperate pieces of hardware to do what Nintendo wants. 

SMD is getting views because he accurately predicted something that everyone else wrote off, he also doesn't misdirect in his views either as he clearly lets people know that a lot of his discussions are speculation unless otherwise stated and tbh his speculation is plausible as the is an AMD win around and all it's not some wild speculation like how you're reacting to it.

Nope Wii U would have sold more because then it would have the 3DS library available on it, these games would have brought more sales than what Wii U will eventually end up with.

No many people prefer to play with a console set up it's not forcing people to buy two sets of hardware it's giving the option of the person's prefered set up, the technology today doesn't remove a number of questions about a hybrid set up.



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NX will blur the lines of Home Console and HH, but not by being a tablet. Imagine playing a title like Pokemon go using the Screened NX Controller walking around town, then connecting it back to your full-fledged home console for some online Pokemon battles. This is what we're talking about. The HH part of NX will have computing power and function on its own, it just won't be the main brains of the console. That will be in the actual HC itself.



no way, the NX is definitely going to have some sort of handheld component and there's zero chance it will have a spec advantage over all of the competition IMO. zero.

if it were soley a home console then, who knows, maybe, but that seems extremely unlikely at this point



Wyrdness said:
potato_hamster said:

Nintendo also said that the Nintendo DS wasn't replacing the Gameboy Advance.

So you're thinking this is an ultra powerful Wii U that takes cartridges and has removable sections from the new fancy tablet controller? Great. I hope you expect this thing to bomb like the Wii U did.

I really cannot wait for this thing to be announced so all of the people that think they know so much can realize how wrong they are.

I suggest you read whats in the post and not what you make up in your head, GBA didn't get added support when DS arrived yet 3DS is highlighted it's not the platform being replaced Wii U is. No I think the platform in March will be a home console and not a hybrid with a particular concept.

Is the NX here? No?
And there's still games coming out from the 3DS? Yes?

How on earth does this apply? The only thing that you currently have to go on that indicates that the NX isn't meant to replace a handheld in any way is wishful thinking, and the fact that Nintendo hasn't done a "hybrid console" before.



Boutros said:
No wonder you believe in God.

Omfg I just busted out laughing at this post. 



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TheLastStarFighter said:
NX will blur the lines of Home Console and HH, but not by being a tablet. Imagine playing a title like Pokemon go using the Screened NX Controller walking around town, then connecting it back to your full-fledged home console for some online Pokemon battles. This is what we're talking about. The HH part of NX will have computing power and function on its own, it just won't be the main brains of the console. That will be in the actual HC itself.

This idea has been tried before with GBA-GCN and Vita-PS4 and PS3-PSP ... it doesn't work. 

No one wants crappy little mobile apetizers to a "real" game. 

This also doesn't address any of Nintendo's problems ... they can't support the Wii U and 3DS as is, now magically they're going to support a PS4 Pro console and another portable (which presumably would be PS Vita in spec at least). 

No chance in hell is that viable.