Miyamotoo said:
Sry, I agree with you on that. |
1080P / 60 fps for all games ... Free online...
Features on handheld ( Street pass, farming everywhere, play off-screen, save on handheld and play on friend's Home console NX, gameplay and menus on screen...)
If both are sold as one package, imagine how expensive that system will be. $250 for the handheld + $300 for the console.
I'm still hoping the Eurogamer rumor isn't the whole story; This makes way more sense if you take into account everything has been saying since day one.
About the power argument... well, it really doesn't matter if NX is superior to what is already in the market (Scorpio included because of the announcement).
Nintendo's problems have little to do with power and way more with 2 other aspects: image and games.
Nintendo started losing marketshare and mindshare the moment someone came in and said "we are going after the cool kids with our cool image and we are gonna make games with that live by that mindset" (weird speach but you get the point).
Sega, Sony, MS... they all did this and they one (Sega's failures are a different story altogether).
It's no longer about the games as Reggie says: this industry has become about image first and games second.
And this is where Nintendo has failed for generations except for the Wii.
Nintendo and this industry went different paths as soon as Sony took over.
NX might be more than powerful to port games to and the games might even be equal or even superior to the original version and it still won't matter.
Nintendo would need to change their overall image and start making games (or paid exclusives) that appealed to a market that Sony and MS dominate.
Look at Splatoon. Look at how well it did.
The only other title that could seriously be compared to what Sony and MS, offer would Xenoblade... in 4 years on the market.
There's no sports games, no racers, no online games like Destiny, no shooters.... how the heck are you going to compete? With more graphical power?
| Lawlight said: If both are sold as one package, imagine how expensive that system will be. $250 for the handheld + $300 for the console. |
Because everyone wants to believe that theportable is powerful, the part of house to boost it.
Whereas the portable is probably a kind ofGameBoy approximately 50 GFLOPS, 150 dollarswith the pad attachable…
the console will be a kind of ps4 slim to which onereplaces Br by a port cartouche (less expensive),for which it is necessary to withdraw the cost ofthe pad (integrated or attachable on the portable)and thanks to components more rescent will costonly 200 dollars…
The NX will thus cost 350 dollars, a hybrid systemable to receive the games ps4 but also gamespsvita and games smartphone. Withoutconcession…
The fact of being only sold together will make it possible to the editors to make hybrid games(partially console /partiellement portable)…
Other functions like the streaming in the twodirections to exploit its portable game TV and to exploit off-screen the portable way wiiu…. multiplayers online of the portable games usingthe capacities of the console for theonline, becoming a kind of personal server…
To have a portable and a console obligatorilytogether will allow many newspossibilities, features, complementarity that more Ithink of it more I see hybridity on the level of thegames, much more interesting than a hybridity ofthe equipment which brings more constraints than possibilities…
Miyamotoo said:
Relly!? What exactly concept you have on console market when you have one product that gave to you real and full home console experience with full picture on big screen (very possible higher resolution than handheld) and that allows you to play local multiplayer, and that act like real handheld for playing on go!? How exactly is not innovative for instance to have 3DS and Wii U in just one product with one unifed library, and when you dont need to buy seperate handheld and seperate home console, or to play Zelda BotW on go and later you continue playing BotW home on TV!? If multiply reliable sources saying same thing and in onother hand you don't have anything that say otherwise, than those infos are most likely true, of course nothing is 100% sure until Nintendo says so, but at this point those infos are IMO around 85% true. |
You know I can do that very thing with my PS4 and Vita right now. Sure it might not be a function of all games, but I can absolutely play some games on my PS4, save them, download the save to my vita, and keep playing on the go. Many of those games were "cross-buy" so it came with both PS4 and Vita copies of teh game. The only real "innovation" here on the concept would be making such a gameplay option available on all games, and making it less cumbersome.
potato_hamster said:
You know I can do that very thing with my PS4 and Vita right now. Sure it might not be a function of all games, but I can absolutely play some games on my PS4, save them, download the save to my vita, and keep playing on the go. Many of those games were "cross-buy" so it came with both PS4 and Vita copies of teh game. The only real "innovation" here on the concept would be making such a gameplay option available on all games, and making it less cumbersome. |
First you cant play any of PS4/Vita games on that way. Second you would need to buy separate Vita and separate PS4, thats around $500. Third its not so easy and practical like rumoured NX, playing one game at home on TV, ditch handheld from base unit and you can immediately continue playing same game on go.
Miyamotoo said:
First you can play just relatively small number of PS4/Vita games on that way. Second you would need to buy separate Vita and separate PS4, thats around $500. Third its not so easy and practical like rumoured NX, playing one game at home on TV, ditch handheld from base unit and you can immediately continue playing same game on go. |
But I already said that. I said that Nintendo's solution will be available on all games and be less cumbersome. I'm simply stating that the concept (in a more expensive, more cumbersome form) is already being put in use by another major player in the industry, and thus the concept itself is not innovative.
Sounds like nothing new, but at the same time it is the first solid thing we had on this so far. Also, this confirms my theory that the game will be the same, but the NX can scale it down and up in features and appearance according to which device you choose, handheld or console.
Also, this confirms that my insider source was a idiot liar, never gonna buy his pizzas again.
See his failed report here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4-yvrI52Ao
My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.
potato_hamster said:
But I already said that. I said that Nintendo's solution will be available on all games and be less cumbersome. I'm simply stating that the concept (in a more expensive, more cumbersome form) is already being put in use by another major player in the industry, and thus the concept itself is not innovative. |
Well thats just one option for PS4/Vita, its totally different when you make whole console about that concept, IMO concept is that NX is basicly handheld and home console in one, you can't say that for PS4/Vita.
| potato_hamster said: I'm simply stating that the concept (in a more expensive, more cumbersome form) is already being put in use by another major player in the industry, and thus the concept itself is not innovative. |
I dont know, thats like saying DS or Wii werent innovative because touch screens & motion controls already existed, or that iPod/iPhone/iPad werent innovative because MP3/smartphones/tablets already existed.
Taking a concept and making drastic improvements allowing for said concept to become mainstream would qualify as innovation.
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