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The alternative to "Dirty" Hilary is "Crazy" Trump (If I read it correctly)....

I'm not american, but I would take Hilary over Trump even if she's ill. He's a nut job who if he does even a little of what he suggests is an extremely dangerous individual.

As others have said, if she's ill and has to step down at least thats an improvement, there is no improvement if trump is in.



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Dunban67 said:
sundin13 said:

See above explanations.

PS: Saying "No, youre wrong" without any explanation to everybody who disagrees with you isn't exactly constructive either.

I am saying i don t thnk you actually beleive what you are saying-  Kind of like a used car salesman selling a car they know is burnt-  It just sounds like the obligatory throw away lines/talking points

And I am saying that you seem to really like listening to yourself speak but find yourself with nothing of substance to say.



Dunban67 said:
mountaindewslave said:

sorry but I'd take a semi-sketchy-health Hilary over Donald Trump any day of the week. realize that Presidential candidates have teams behind them, its not as if she'd be operating 100% with no help. and worse case scenario someone will step up if she were to die in office, the VP. its just what happens

for the record I think Clinton is a bit of a bought and paid for name however Donald Trump is egotistical, racist, cannot relate to the average person at all, and dangerous in terms of international policy.

He won't win the election and things like constantly discussing Hilary's health are just desperate ploys to try and give him a chance. Sorry but the average American doesn't trust a racist billionaire to do the job. Maybe either candidate would be poor choices, but at least Hilary doesn't spout out with racist comments every 5 minutes

using the "racist" lable as a means to disparage a candidate you do not support is one of the 1st signals to me that that person really has no idea and they are just following somoeon else lead-  be your own person -  don t go straight to th eHC campagn talking points - come up w something that might be true, helpful acurate???  

Okay, you're done. Hillary Clinton is awful and you're just awful at proving it, especially when it's just simply too easy. 

 

Hillary Clinton compromised national security. She lied on numerous occasions about it. Then got caught. When she was caught, she claimed not ignorance, but incompetence. The person that many want to be our nation's most powerful figure is so mind-blowingly awful at what she does that she couldn't even pay attention for a 15 minute briefing on how classified information is labeled.

 

So now we're stuck with two potential characters in Hillary; the one that she wants us to believe is an incompetent fool unfit to run a country, and the one that might be hosting become that facade whole planning who knows what. 

 

Full disclosure, I don't want Trump to be president. I did at one point early in the race, but he's become increasingly hostile towards people that he doesn't need to be hostile towards. He's opened his mouth and awful, awful things have come out. But you know what? 

 

We know what kind of person he is. He's not a wildcard, he's just a bad one. 

 

Hillary, on the other hand, is a card equally bad (but in a different way)... Unless she's actually a maniac. So I just don't care to sit by and listen to people compare her and Trump, only to act like one is better. They're two different flavors of shit; diarrhea and green diarrhea. Stop acting like your political party chose the less shit candidate, because it didn't. 



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sundin13 said:

Now as far as the Clinton Foundation is concerned, yes, I believe that potentially making massive sums of money by making personally favorable decisions in foreign policy is significantly more of a threat than people donating to a charitable organization. The Clintons don't make money fromt he Clinton Foundation (including salary http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-09-16/the-clinton-foundation-vs-the-trump-foundation ). Further, the figure you pulled up (85 people) first of all doesn't say anything about whether the access was granted due to donations, and even if it was, that was 87 people out of thousands (AP decided to skew that figure as much as they could) and if you actually read the details of what was found, there was absolutely nothing untoward about any of those meetings. When the biggest hit you can find on the foundation is that she met with a Nobel Peace Prize winner and spoke to someone who was involved with AIDS charity while running an AIDS charity, you ain't got shit.

But yeah, I can see you have no interest in any actual discussion so I think this discussion has run its course.

Fine, deny all the evidence you want but the emails are there just to show how the Clinton Foundation donors colluded with the Secretary of State at that time ... 



Also watch this,

Conclusion...Still better than Trump. Some of the stuff he says about a "demonic messiah" are pretty over the top but the 176 facts should convince anyone.



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Azuren said:
Dunban67 said:

using the "racist" lable as a means to disparage a candidate you do not support is one of the 1st signals to me that that person really has no idea and they are just following somoeon else lead-  be your own person -  don t go straight to th eHC campagn talking points - come up w something that might be true, helpful acurate???  

Okay, you're done. Hillary Clinton is awful and you're just awful at proving it, especially when it's just simply too easy. 

 

Hillary Clinton compromised national security. She lied on numerous occasions about it. Then got caught. When she was caught, she claimed not ignorance, but incompetence. The person that many want to be our nation's most powerful figure is so mind-blowingly awful at what she does that she couldn't even pay attention for a 15 minute briefing on how classified information is labeled.

 

So now we're stuck with two potential characters in Hillary; the one that she wants us to believe is an incompetent fool unfit to run a country, and the one that might be hosting become that facade whole planning who knows what. 

 

Full disclosure, I don't want Trump to be president. I did at one point early in the race, but he's become increasingly hostile towards people that he doesn't need to be hostile towards. He's opened his mouth and awful, awful things have come out. But you know what? 

 

We know what kind of person he is. He's not a wildcard, he's just a bad one. 

 

Hillary, on the other hand, is a card equally bad (but in a different way)... Unless she's actually a maniac. So I just don't care to sit by and listen to people compare her and Trump, only to act like one is better. They're two different flavors of shit; diarrhea and green diarrhea. Stop acting like your political party chose the less shit candidate, because it didn't. 

@ bolded

How many politicians do you think are equally incompetent and have also compromised national security but just haven't been caught (at least in public)? I suspect there's a scary number of politicians who are equally as incompetent in that regard. 



I remember people were worried about John McCain's health if he got into office but I don't see people worried about Hillary's health even though she's had multiple issues just during this running cycle alone.



Scoobes said:

@ bolded

How many politicians do you think are equally incompetent and have also compromised national security but just haven't been caught (at least in public)? I suspect there's a scary number of politicians who are equally as incompetent in that regard. 

In which case we need to get rid of politcians altogether! 



fatslob-:O said:
Scoobes said:

@ bolded

How many politicians do you think are equally incompetent and have also compromised national security but just haven't been caught (at least in public)? I suspect there's a scary number of politicians who are equally as incompetent in that regard. 

In which case we need to get rid of politcians altogether! 

Dictator? ;)



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fatslob-:O said:
sundin13 said:

Now as far as the Clinton Foundation is concerned, yes, I believe that potentially making massive sums of money by making personally favorable decisions in foreign policy is significantly more of a threat than people donating to a charitable organization. The Clintons don't make money fromt he Clinton Foundation (including salary http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-09-16/the-clinton-foundation-vs-the-trump-foundation ). Further, the figure you pulled up (85 people) first of all doesn't say anything about whether the access was granted due to donations, and even if it was, that was 87 people out of thousands (AP decided to skew that figure as much as they could) and if you actually read the details of what was found, there was absolutely nothing untoward about any of those meetings. When the biggest hit you can find on the foundation is that she met with a Nobel Peace Prize winner and spoke to someone who was involved with AIDS charity while running an AIDS charity, you ain't got shit.

But yeah, I can see you have no interest in any actual discussion so I think this discussion has run its course.

Fine, deny all the evidence you want but the emails are there just to show how the Clinton Foundation donors colluded with the Secretary of State at that time ... 

Infowars is basically a tabloid site which frequently posts false information and this article posts absolutely nothing in the way of sources. Got any sources that are even mildly trustworthy?

The worst thing that I have seen any solid proof of from this whole debacle is Clinton maybe meeting with donors, and that has already been deemed to be entirely legal.

http://www.newsweek.com/john-dean-why-pay-play-charges-against-clinton-are-bogus-496742