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AbbathTheGrim said:

When they look in the mirror and recognize their race, what are the correct and acceptable feelings white people should feel towards their own race?

Do you believe white people cannot feel pride about their own race without that pride implying racism?

Is pride in your own race only ok when that pride comes from being a minority and being an oppressed race?

How do you think white people should feel about their own race?

When a black person in the US or a Jewish person in Germany celebrates pride in their race, it's because they were hugely oppressed for being that race. If a white person shows pride for being white in either nation, they are being a racist dick, because racially motivated things that whites did in the US and Germany are enslaving black people, killing natives, and attempting to exterminate Slavs and Jewish people.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
I'm proud of my accomplishments and achievements. I'm happy with being my race (black) I wouldn't change it. But I don't really understand racial pride as it's not an achievement, or something you earned. You were born within a race and didn't have a choice, I don't understand the pride there.


BUT, I don't think that's what people mean when they have Black Pride, or Gay pride etc. It's more a situation of, people have tried to make me feel bad for being a certain way, and fuck you I'm happy with who I am.

So when people say white people shouldn't have white pride (it's wrong to say they shouldn't anyone has the right to be proud of their background) it's usually under the guise of, you haven't gone through what me and people who look like me went through whilst growing up, so you're saying this to try and belittle me.

Guess what... no person have ever passed through the same thing as another one, and you can't accertain for any degree of certainty that because of skin color someone have gone through more hardship than another.

That is the very racist and separatist feeling the left wing try to put in place that is completely false.

The individual matter, the color or the alleged background the ancestors had don't.

SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:

But somehow you want to say that only one is valid

Only one what is valid?   Feeling proud of others success because they represent you?   Or the feeling of pride because you are a part of a maligned group that rose above expectations and achieved success in a system that functions to hinder it?

Both are valid.  Both apply.  But both have different circumstances.

The difference is fan Johnny seeing hockey star Steve slap a puck in the goal is being proud of his team.  Steve doesn't represent the struggles, trial, tribulations and oppression that Johnny deals with because Johnny doesn't have those problems...so there is no association there.  Johnny is associated to Steve as a representative of his city.

Fan Tyrone seeing basketball star Deandre drive the paint and dunk is both being proud of his team and the achievements he makes despite the odds against him.  Those same odds Deandre faced, Tyrone faces.  It's watching as the world around you tells you that you are insignificant because of who you are and seeing a representative of that group defiantly stand against the oppression. 

 

If you think a black man is proud of another black man just because he's black, you've thrown an airball too.  You miss the reason. 

If you never ask why they are proud and only assume a reason...you know where that goes.

You were very clear on only black people and similar acceptability to pride over others and projecting then on the successful ones.

And see above, no 2 people have gone through the same hardships, and you can't rule one suffering more or less only looking at skin color and assuming.

Guess what... the world will tell you that you are insignificant for thousand different reasons and you won't be able to hide, and a lot of those reasons have nothing to do with your skin color but people will find something to dismisse and diminish you if you let them.

Jumpin said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

When they look in the mirror and recognize their race, what are the correct and acceptable feelings white people should feel towards their own race?

Do you believe white people cannot feel pride about their own race without that pride implying racism?

Is pride in your own race only ok when that pride comes from being a minority and being an oppressed race?

How do you think white people should feel about their own race?

When a black person in the US or a Jewish person in Germany celebrates pride in their race, it's because they were hugely oppressed for being that race. If a white person shows pride for being white in either nation, they are being a racist dick, because racially motivated things that whites did in the US and Germany are enslaving black people, killing natives, and attempting to exterminate Slavs and Jewish people.

Nope, they are showing pride for being born as he was and not commiting any crime that anyone try to put on him for how he was born.

Black people kill a lot more blacks in USA than white people do. Black people enslaved a lot more people in Africa than you would guess, and also enslaved white people and jews as well. Don't try to make a bad white people against the saints of other races.



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DonFerrari said:

I wouldn't do the girl that showed up on the video before clicking start.

I'm not entirely sold on that being a female.

Soundwave said:

Yes African human groups that migrated outside of Africa have interbreeding with Neanderthals, which for racial pursuits then means people in Africa are actually the "purest" human group (lol, don't think the racial supremacists like that though). 

Still our genetic variance is very low. Neanderthal genes are common to people in Asia and Africa too, it's not like it was limited to Europe. The genetic contribution of Neanderthals to the human genetic code is still also measured at about 1-4% so it's not a ton either. Likely some small group of our distant ancestors mated with Neanderthals out of need (no suitable partners to fuck) or probably more likely were raped or did the raping, lol. I'm guessing our mating rituals/habits back then weren't quite so posh. 

Feel that's very likely, we are supposed to be civilised and still we have rape going on left to right, so I am not surprised if back then they behaved even more like animals than some of us do now.



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KLAMarine said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

People only feel pride in their race/orientation/disability when others make them feel like they should feel bad for it.

I drink water a lot. But if a large group of people around me was telling me how awful I am for drinking water, and I'm worth less because of it. I'd think, "Fuck you, I like drinking water and proud of it, bitch" 

Silly example but I hope the idea came across..

Then you should be proud of the fact that you continue drinking water despite the pressure around you, not at the fact that you drink water.

The same way someone would be proud to continue to be homosexual despite the scrutiny, and continue to enjoy being their ethnicity despite the racists. If it wasn't an issue and no one cared, there wouldn't be pride parades, or pride in race etc.



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DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
I'm proud of my accomplishments and achievements. I'm happy with being my race (black) I wouldn't change it. But I don't really understand racial pride as it's not an achievement, or something you earned. You were born within a race and didn't have a choice, I don't understand the pride there.


BUT, I don't think that's what people mean when they have Black Pride, or Gay pride etc. It's more a situation of, people have tried to make me feel bad for being a certain way, and fuck you I'm happy with who I am.

So when people say white people shouldn't have white pride (it's wrong to say they shouldn't anyone has the right to be proud of their background) it's usually under the guise of, you haven't gone through what me and people who look like me went through whilst growing up, so you're saying this to try and belittle me.

Guess what... no person have ever passed through the same thing as another one, and you can't accertain for any degree of certainty that because of skin color someone have gone through more hardship than another.

That is the very racist and separatist feeling the left wing try to put in place that is completely false.

The individual matter, the color or the alleged background the ancestors had don't.

Since when did 'You didn't grow up dealing with racism and feeling worthless for being white" mean that you didn't have more hardship? Don't put words in my mouth. (or text to my fingers)

It doesn't have to be race, if you've grown up with a lisp, being blind, a skin condition, autism or any other disibility. And society made you feel like shit for it, it's obviously there will be a group of them that will say 'Fuck you, I'm proud of who I am'. 



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2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

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I dunno. Every time I ran across anyone who was proud of their race, they were more often than not, racist. Because they saw themselves as separate from others.



You should just feel pride of what you do, because we are all born in the same system. If you want white people to pay 'reparations' you're just a racist that takes advantage of history while the victim gets boned by history. And the media plays happily along with this. If you listen to the popular media white people have a patent for racism and other races are always being screwed over. Even genocides in Africa of wherever are apparantly caused by white people. I guess they litteraly said: "take this weapons and sloughter eachother, thank you."
But anyways, if you want racism to stop, 1 thing that will help is by shutting up about it and actually doing something about problems like 74% of the black community in the USA that are raised without a father (or a transgender attack helicopter if you're into that). But ofcourse, saying stuff like that on the popular media will be called out for racism, and will ofcourse trigger racists.
All races are racist by nature, not being racist should be thought but should also be worked for otherwise you will still have those stereotypes that will confirm your racist thoughts.



AbbathTheGrim said:
DonFerrari said:

I wouldn't do the girl that showed up on the video before clicking start.

I'm not entirely sold on that being a female.

You know that by the gender theory she could identify herself as a woman.

ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:

Guess what... no person have ever passed through the same thing as another one, and you can't accertain for any degree of certainty that because of skin color someone have gone through more hardship than another.

That is the very racist and separatist feeling the left wing try to put in place that is completely false.

The individual matter, the color or the alleged background the ancestors had don't.

Since when did 'You didn't grow up dealing with racism and feeling worthless for being white" mean that you didn't have more hardship? Don't put words in my mouth. (or text to my fingers)

It doesn't have to be race, if you've grown up with a lisp, being blind, a skin condition, autism or any other disibility. And society made you feel like shit for it, it's obviously there will be a group of them that will say 'Fuck you, I'm proud of who I am'. 

Look at the context of what you said and try to say that you weren't implying it.

Society make you feel like shit for everything you are born, but only the minorities moviments want special threatment for how bad society threats everyone



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

I'm not entirely sold on that being a female.

You know that by the gender theory she could identify herself as a woman.

ArchangelMadzz said:

Since when did 'You didn't grow up dealing with racism and feeling worthless for being white" mean that you didn't have more hardship? Don't put words in my mouth. (or text to my fingers)

It doesn't have to be race, if you've grown up with a lisp, being blind, a skin condition, autism or any other disibility. And society made you feel like shit for it, it's obviously there will be a group of them that will say 'Fuck you, I'm proud of who I am'. 

Look at the context of what you said and try to say that you weren't implying it.

Society make you feel like shit for everything you are born, but only the minorities moviments want special threatment for how bad society threats everyone

I wasn't implying everything, I didn't realise I had to make counter arguments in my original post to arguments I wasn't making. 

No one wants special treatment, people want to be treated equally. Gay people just want to get on with their shit, Disabled people just want to live their life the way they can, Blacks just don't want to be discriminated against and have people think they're criminals before they meet them, arabs don't want to be considered terrorists automatically, etc etc. 

So having pride in things people make you feel bad for is very normal. All races have it. Even something as simple as people have over/underbites I've seen people have pride for after suffering bullying for it.



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2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

shenlong213 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Why should they feel anything? Why not just get on with your life instead of worrying about silly things like 'race'?

The race I think about it all the time is my PC

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