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Is Donald Trump a sociopath?

Yes 303 60.84%
 
No 195 39.16%
 
Total:498

He shows all the signs of being one, so logically you treat him like one



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It's all too easy for opponents of a politician to lob out insults or unfounded claims.  But... sometimes a politician is legitimately a disturbed individual, and in that case, it should be pointed out.  So, let's examine.

These are the traits of a sociopath

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Debateable on the superficial charm part, but doubtlessly glib.

Manipulative and Conning

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,”

"What I've done is I've used, brilliantly, the laws of the country. And not personally, just corporate. And if you look at people like myself that are at the highest levels of business, they use -- many of them have done it, many times."

Grandoise Sense of Self

“I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me,’’ 

"“I know words, I have the best words."

"I'm the most militaristic person there is."

"It would take an hour and a half to learn everything there is to learn about missiles.  I think I know most of it anyway."  This is a man btw who is unfamiliar with the term nuclear triad.

A president who believes he knows more than our military, when he can't name the parties involved in the conflict, is dangerous.  A president who won't listen to his military advisors is disastrous.  One of the traits that brought Hitler down actually.

Pathological Lying

This is an easy one.  Trump has lied about many things.  And not like, the standard political spin thing.  But straight up lies about pretty obvious factual things.

He denied saying John McCain wasn't a war hero despite video of him clearly saying verbatim "he's not a war hero".

He claims Trump steaks are being sold when they aren't.

He insisted that Trump Vineyards is owned by him entirely.  HE EVEN TOLD THE MEDIA TO CHECK THIS SPECIFICALLY!  He owns none of it.  

He claims he wrote the art of the deal.  He did not.The guy who DID write the art of the deal says that if he could retitle the book he would call it "The Sociopath". 

He claims he doesn't know who David Duke is, when he has specifically discussed him in interviews.

I mean, yeah politiciians stretch the truth, rationalize, exaggerate, but this is exactly what a pathological liar looks like.  Lying about very obvious things, despite direct evidence.  And lying about really silly things that are not even worth lying about. 

Lack of empathy

"Appreciate the congrats on being right on radical Islamic terrorism.  I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance.  We must be smart!"

Regardless of how you may feel about the issue of terrorism, the fact that a preisdential candidate's first response to a mass shooting was "I appreciate the congrats" is utterly chilling.  

Then there is his response to the speaker at the DNC who lost a son.

"I'd like to hear his wife say something."

Again, regardless of your politics, this kind of reaction, to attack not the speaker, but his wife, is horrifying.

 

Oh, and by the way.  He suggested killing family members or terrorists.  Wives and childrens and such.  HE HAS FUCKING ADVOCATED WAR CRIMES.  When a general said that order would not be followed, Donald said “I’m a leader, I’ve always been a leader. I’ve never had any problem leading people. If I say do it, they’re going to do it."  That's scary.

Shallow Emotions

Well I can't really address how genuine his emotions are.

Incapacity for love

Again, can't speak to that.

Need for stimulation

Obviously.

Poor Behavioral Control/Lack of Impulse Control

He suggested that people at his rally should "knock the crap" out of protesters.  Claimed he wanted to punch speakers at the DNC.  Talks about his penis during presidential debates.  Frequent verbal outbursts.  Constant insults of other personalities.  Numerous allegations of infidelity and sexual harassment.

Early Behavior Problems/Juvenille Delinquency

Punched his music teacher as a child.  Involved in several other altercations with students.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/young-donald-trump-military-school/2016/06/22/f0b3b164-317c-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html

Yup, he's got that trait. 

Irresponsibility

Declaring bankruptcy is literally abdicating your responsibility.  And I'm wondering if anyone can find a quote of Donald Trump taking responsibility for anything he's said or done.

Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity

“You know, it really doesn`t matter what (the media) write as long as you`ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”

His infidelity is well documented in his divorce proceedings.
Lack of realistic life plan
Wants to be president despite a clear lack of knowledge..  Insists he'll learn policies on the fly.  Wants to deport 11 million immigrants at once.  Believes he can force military to follow illegal orders.
As for how he'd handle the national debt...  "You go back and say, guess what, the economy crashed, I'm going to give you half."
Criminal or Entreprenurial Versatility
Obviously got this one.  Sociopaths tend to excel in business.  Obviously, that's not enough to brand him a sociopath, but when all the other boxes are also ticked.

 

 

 

It's not an insult, it's not mud slinging, and it's not an attempt to avoid the issues (which would be hard to do considering how little he's put forth).  There is a man who seems to meet most or all of the traits of a sociopath who is running for president.  People should take this seriously.



CaptainExplosion said:
Ljink96 said:
He's something, anything but normal. He's a racist and a complete idiot.

Yet he's on fire in the polls. Does this mean most Americans (most voters at least) are as stupid and hateful as he is?

Not necessarily.

Trump is successful for the same reason people buy billions of dollars worth of diet products, or penis enlarging pills, or whatever.  Sometimes people want an easy solution so badly that they're willing to ignore common sense. I'm going to fix it.  Don't ask me how, but I will, because I'm awesome.  It's a time tested strategy.



He doesn't exactly have a personality disorder or even an anti-social attitude so it'd be a stretch to even claim that he's a sociopath but he is definitely on his "game" ...



Shadow1980 said:
If he's not a sociopath, then he's either a clueless idiot, a narcissist on a massive ego trip, or he's just a troll and he's doing all this for the lulz, because there's no way a mainstream politician would ever blurt out the nonsense he has with a straight face and not only refuse to apologize for any of it, but double down on it every time. The sad thing is, at least 40% of the GOP base lapped that garbage up. If I was a Republican, I would have much rather had someone like Kasich as the nominee. Not too far away from the center, has actual experience, and is definitely electable. Polls suggested Kasich would have absolutely destroyed Clinton the general election, but primary voters don't give a shit about quaint notions like electability or actual capacity to do their job correctly.

The so called "electability" is worthless if you can't garner up the initial support and that is why Bernie Sanders got outed so quickly despite having the highest favourability ratings against any republican candidates according to the polls ... 

The only sensible thing to do as voters is to vote with your feelings instead of logic when there are no guarantees as far as the future is concenred ... 

If the Bernie or bust crowd want to make a big deal out of it then let them vote for Trump in protest as we can not have our democracy being perverted by the likes of the government ... 



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No he is not a sociopath,, but I would say that the western media are. They censor and distort anything that doesn't conform to their narrow-minded, Marxist view of the world and right now Trump is their prime target.

Mark my words, there is no bigger threat to freedom in Western nations than those who advocate more power and control be given to government. Trump strikes fear into these people because he cannot be controlled. All the youth in America are so socialist and they think that government is their friend but I am sorry to say that government doesn't care about you one bit: it wants power and the same greedy people who you say are the scourge of capitalism are the same ones at Godman Sachs who are pulling the strings of pretty much every establishment government leader including Hillary. What makes socialism so much worse than capitalism is that at least a corporation generally can't raise an army against you. Americans are going to learn the ugly lessons that socialism taught Russia in the 20th century and Trump is your last chance off this train. It's your choice but I suggest that you vote for him.



Dunban67 said:

when you or most anyone can not  objectively defend his opponent and you won t address the issues then by all means use ignorance as a weapon against Trump and count on like minded ignorance to follow in Trump bashing-   And people ask why do politicians run so many negative adds and make negative attacks on their opponents ..... Because they work!   True and so disappointing that so many brave men died to defend our rights including the right to vote but so many people show their appreciation by remaining ignorant and or using it -  

Ignorance is believing Donald Trump cares about the American people for any other reason than how to profit off them.



John2290 said:
No. I can't believe people are actually voting YES. Fuck, the mans an idiot and all but sociopathy and the like is the worst thing anyone could possibly be. More chance Hillary is one since they are very good at hiding it and appearing "normal". Donald trump ....idiot. But sociopath? I doubt it. Not even the vast majority of those CEO's who make decisions that effect millions of lives in a negative way or kill people on the daily with their decisions are sociopaths.

You know alot of CEOs and Doctors, highly successfull bussiness men and the like are sociopaths.

They are extremly goal oriented and work hard towards their goals.

Your probably confuseing sociopath with psychopath.

Theres alot of sociopaths that funktion well in society.

They just dont give 2shit about anyone but themselves, but they work hard and usually do well (dont mind bending a few rules here and there to get ahead).

Weither or not such a person is best suited to be president is another question all together.

He might not be a pure sociopath, but as the thread shows he has alot of tendencies/traits in common with one.



hershel_layton said:
melbye said:
I think more a narcissist than a sociopath.

 

sociopath can be defined as a person who has Antisocial Personality Disorder. This disorder is characterized by a disregard for the feelings of others, a lack of remorse or shame, manipulative behavior, unchecked egocentricity, and the ability to lie in order to achieve one's goals.

 

Sounds like trump if you ask me

Sounds allot more like Hillary to be quite frankly honest with you tbh.



Majority of world leaders are sociopaths or psychopaths.