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Boutros said:
thismeintiel said:

You know someone has conceded a point when all they can do is demean those on the opposing side on a personal level.

Is it the man boobs that are too much?

Nah.  It's the desperation of those trying to defend the movie.  The agenda is very obvious.



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thismeintiel said:
Boutros said:

Is it the man boobs that are too much?

Nah.  It's the desperation of those trying to defend the movie.  The agenda is very obvious.

I would say desperate are the throng of probably a sad few posters who are likely in their 30s who are flooding IMDB with "1/10" ratings for their movie in an attempt to lower its score. 

From the sounds of it this movie is no worse or probably better than a lot of summer "tentpole" movies this summer ... X-Men Apocalypse, Teenange Mutant Ninja Turtles, Warcraft, Alice Through the Looking Glass, and Indepedence Day all had varying levels of suck (probably more than this film has), but none have been given anywhere close to the same scrutiny or vitriol. 

If fanboys want to direct their anger at someone for not getting another Ghostbusters with the original cast, they should direct their anger at Bill Murray, because he's the main reason "Ghostbusters III" never happened. Then again, Ghostbusters II kinda SUCKED, so maybe the hardcore fanbase who are angry over this need to chill the fuck out. 

This was never some masterpiece franchise, it had one good film, one shitty one, and then a cartoon series for kiddies. Like seriously, get over it. This was never a "cultural event" like Star Wars was with any kind of mythical ethos or any of that shit, it was just a dumb but fun buddy comedy which cashed in on the 80s craze of selling stupid plastic toys to kids and then had a really dull sequel that basically killed the IP for 25+ years. 



Well, one way or another this movie has succeeded in making everyone talk about it, very strange thread to read through here.



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Soundwave said:
thismeintiel said:

Nah.  It's the desperation of those trying to defend the movie.  The agenda is very obvious.

I would say desperate are the throng of probably a sad few posters who are likely in their 30s who are flooding IMDB with "1/10" ratings for their movie in an attempt to lower its score. 

From the sounds of it this movie is no worse or probably better than a lot of summer "tentpole" movies this summer ... X-Men Apocalypse, Teenange Mutant Ninja Turtles, Warcraft, Alice Through the Looking Glass, and Indepedence Day all had varying levels of suck (probably more than this film has), but none have been given anywhere close to the same scrutiny or vitriol. 

If fanboys want to direct their anger at someone for not getting another Ghostbusters with the original cast, they should direct their anger at Bill Murray, because he's the main reason "Ghostbusters III" never happened. Then again, Ghostbusters II kinda SUCKED, so maybe the hardcore fanbase who are angry over this need to chill the fuck out. 

This was never some masterpiece franchise, it had one good film, one shitty one, and then a cartoon series for kiddies. Like seriously, get over it. This was never a "cultural event" like Star Wars was with any kind of mythical ethos or any of that shit, it was just a dumb but fun buddy comedy which cashed in on the 80s craze of selling stupid plastic toys to kids and then had a really dull sequel that basically killed the IP for 25+ years. 

And somehow those sad posters defending the movie and voting it a 10/10 on imdb are fine? I mean seriously how sad can one be to defend Sony Pictures/Columbia's cynical marketing ploys?



Soundwave said:
thismeintiel said:

Nah.  It's the desperation of those trying to defend the movie.  The agenda is very obvious.

I would say desperate are the throng of probably a sad few posters who are flooding IMDB with "1/10" ratings for their movie in an attempt to lower its score. 

From the sounds of it this movie is no worse or probably better than a lot of summer "tentpole" movies this summer ... X-Men Apocalypse, Teenange Mutant Ninja Turtles, Warcraft, Alice Through the Looking Glass, and Indepedence Day all had varying levels of suck (probably more than this film has), but none have been given anywhere close to the same scrutiny or vitriol. 

If fanboys want to direct their anger at someone for not getting another Ghostbusters with the original cast, they should direct their anger at Bill Murray, because he's the main reason it never happened. Then again, Ghostbusters II kinda SUCKED, so maybe the hardcore fanbase who are angry over this need to chill the fuck out. 

This was never some masterpiece franchise, it had one good film, one shitty one, and then a cartoon series for kiddies. Like seriously, get over it. This was never a "cultural event" like Star Wars was with any kind of mythical ethos or any of that shit, it was just a dumb but fun buddy comedy which cashed in on the 80s craze of selling stupid plastic toys to kids and then had a really dull sequel that basically killed the IP for 25+ years. 

Nice way to try to simplify it, but you're way off point.  To some Ghostbusters is damn near a masterpiece.  The second one was more a safe retread of the 1st (probably why some were disapointed by it on release), but still enjoyable.  The cartoon series was fun, at least in the beginning, before it switched hands.  It hasn't remained in the general public's mind for over 30 years just because it had one good film.  It was a cultural phenomenon.  Of course, some are trying to belittle the series now just in an attempt to uplift this new garbage film.  I also wouldn't doubt some of the backlash is pint up backlash against remakes, in general, that has just reached a boiling point.

And those movies you have listed haven't exactly lit up the box office, have they?  Of course, none of those had trailers that looked completely god awful.  Or had a director and supporters act like any detractors were sexist trolls who just hate it because of...women...without having any real good counter argument.  Which brings me to...

The most important point.  That the trailers for the film look like complete garbage.  It looks more like a sequel to the live action Scooby Doo movies than a Ghostbusters reboot.  The jokes are ones that were maybe kinda funny in a 90's kid movie, but have gotten stale after decades of use.  They even use the hunky idiot trope.  It also doesn't help that trailers have become an art form since they first started being made, or even how they were in the 80's.  Now, studios pay big money for editors to put in the best parts of their film and do their darndest to make the movie look the most appealing.  Even movies that are complete shit have great looking trailers.  For a movie to have a shitty trailer nowadays is very telling.



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Soundwave said:
thismeintiel said:

Nah.  It's the desperation of those trying to defend the movie.  The agenda is very obvious.

I would say desperate are the throng of probably a sad few posters who are likely in their 30s who are flooding IMDB with "1/10" ratings for their movie in an attempt to lower its score. 

From the sounds of it this movie is no worse or probably better than a lot of summer "tentpole" movies this summer ... X-Men Apocalypse, Teenange Mutant Ninja Turtles, Warcraft, Alice Through the Looking Glass, and Indepedence Day all had varying levels of suck (probably more than this film has), but none have been given anywhere close to the same scrutiny or vitriol. 

If fanboys want to direct their anger at someone for not getting another Ghostbusters with the original cast, they should direct their anger at Bill Murray, because he's the main reason "Ghostbusters III" never happened. Then again, Ghostbusters II kinda SUCKED, so maybe the hardcore fanbase who are angry over this need to chill the fuck out. 

This was never some masterpiece franchise, it had one good film, one shitty one, and then a cartoon series for kiddies. Like seriously, get over it. This was never a "cultural event" like Star Wars was with any kind of mythical ethos or any of that shit, it was just a dumb but fun buddy comedy which cashed in on the 80s craze of selling stupid plastic toys to kids and then had a really dull sequel that basically killed the IP for 25+ years. 

Could you stop insulting others? 



I'm more excited to experience the much praised 3D effects of the film. Many are saying it's the best 3D film in a long time or ever. I hope it does really well in the box office.



Aeolus451 said:
Soundwave said:

I would say desperate are the throng of probably a sad few posters who are likely in their 30s who are flooding IMDB with "1/10" ratings for their movie in an attempt to lower its score. 

From the sounds of it this movie is no worse or probably better than a lot of summer "tentpole" movies this summer ... X-Men Apocalypse, Teenange Mutant Ninja Turtles, Warcraft, Alice Through the Looking Glass, and Indepedence Day all had varying levels of suck (probably more than this film has), but none have been given anywhere close to the same scrutiny or vitriol. 

If fanboys want to direct their anger at someone for not getting another Ghostbusters with the original cast, they should direct their anger at Bill Murray, because he's the main reason "Ghostbusters III" never happened. Then again, Ghostbusters II kinda SUCKED, so maybe the hardcore fanbase who are angry over this need to chill the fuck out. 

This was never some masterpiece franchise, it had one good film, one shitty one, and then a cartoon series for kiddies. Like seriously, get over it. This was never a "cultural event" like Star Wars was with any kind of mythical ethos or any of that shit, it was just a dumb but fun buddy comedy which cashed in on the 80s craze of selling stupid plastic toys to kids and then had a really dull sequel that basically killed the IP for 25+ years. 

Could you stop insulting others? 

I'm talking about IMDB members and posters on sites like Reddit just to be clear.



thismeintiel said:
Soundwave said:

I would say desperate are the throng of probably a sad few posters who are flooding IMDB with "1/10" ratings for their movie in an attempt to lower its score. 

From the sounds of it this movie is no worse or probably better than a lot of summer "tentpole" movies this summer ... X-Men Apocalypse, Teenange Mutant Ninja Turtles, Warcraft, Alice Through the Looking Glass, and Indepedence Day all had varying levels of suck (probably more than this film has), but none have been given anywhere close to the same scrutiny or vitriol. 

If fanboys want to direct their anger at someone for not getting another Ghostbusters with the original cast, they should direct their anger at Bill Murray, because he's the main reason it never happened. Then again, Ghostbusters II kinda SUCKED, so maybe the hardcore fanbase who are angry over this need to chill the fuck out. 

This was never some masterpiece franchise, it had one good film, one shitty one, and then a cartoon series for kiddies. Like seriously, get over it. This was never a "cultural event" like Star Wars was with any kind of mythical ethos or any of that shit, it was just a dumb but fun buddy comedy which cashed in on the 80s craze of selling stupid plastic toys to kids and then had a really dull sequel that basically killed the IP for 25+ years. 

Nice way to try to simplify it, but you're way off point.  To some Ghostbusters is damn near a masterpiece.  The second one was more a safe retread of the 1st (probably why some were disapointed by it on release), but still enjoyable.  The cartoon series was fun, at least in the beginning, before it switched hands.  It hasn't remained in the general public's mind for over 30 years just because it had one good film.  It was a cultural phenomenon.  Of course, some are trying to belittle the series now just in an attempt to uplift this new garbage film.  I also wouldn't doubt some of the backlash is pint up backlash against remakes, in general, that has just reached a boiling point.

And those movies you have listed haven't exactly lit up the box office, have they?  Of course, none of those had trailers that looked completely god awful.  Or had a director and supporters act like any detractors were sexist trolls who just hate it because of...women...without having any real good counter argument.  Which brings me to...

The most important point.  That the trailers for the film look like complete garbage.  It looks more like a sequel to the live action Scooby Doo movies than a Ghostbusters reboot.  The jokes are ones that were maybe kinda funny in a 90's kid movie, but have gotten stale after decades of use.  They even use the hunky idiot trope.  It also doesn't help that trailers have become an art form since they first started being made, or even how they were in the 80's.  Now, studios pay big money for editors to put in the best parts of their film and do their darndest to make the movie look the most appealing.  Even movies that are complete shit have great looking trailers.  For a movie to have a shitty trailer nowadays is very telling.

I watched the first movie pretty much every day after coming home from school when I was a kid ... but seriously the second one was a dud, there's a fair chance this new movie is about as good as that.

Kate MacKinnon and Kristen Wiig are legitimately talented, far moreso than a lot of the male actors that were rumored for a new Ghostbusters (Adam Sandler? Channing Tatum? Seth Rogan? Kevin James?), if the movie isn't good it's a direct fault of the screenwriter that didn't give the talent in the film anything to work with. 

Hate to break this to you as well but the ghosts in the original Ghostbusters kinda look stupid too, that was never really a strong point of the originals. I mean this looks like it's out of Scooby Doo too (and I also enjoyed Scooby Doo when I was a kid):

Personally I think Harold Ramis was the true heart of Ghostbusters and the chances of another Ghostbusters film with the same feel/style died with him. And you can blame Bill Murray if you want to be mad at anyone about that. Though given how much worse GB2 was from GB1, GB3 likely would've been an even further drop-off with an aging cast.



Soundwave said:
Aeolus451 said:

Could you stop insulting others? 

I'm talking about IMDB members and posters on sites like Reddit just to be clear.

Even if that's the case, saying something like "If fanboys want to direct their anger at someone for not getting another Ghostbusters with the original cast, they should direct their anger at Bill Murray, because he's the main reason "Ghostbusters III" never happened. Then again, Ghostbusters II kinda SUCKED, so maybe the hardcore fanbase who are angry over this need to chill the fuck out." is like calling anyone here who don't like the ghostbusters remake fanboys. Just tone it down.