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Lawlight said:
Mike_L said:

So what I'm getting is that some are outraged because they believe this movie's sole purpose is to be a platform for gender politics. If that's true I see why they don't want to see the movie, I guess. But just don't watch it then. If enough people ignore it a similar thing is less likely to happen again.

Though, I find it odd that many seem to be willing to give it a try when it releases on blu-ray and streaming services. If you're certain that it's nothing more than a platform for gender politics why would you even be interested in ever watching it? Because it actually may be more than just gender politics?

 

Some of you refuse to believe the reviewers even though they actually HAVE seen the movie and genuinely liked it.

I don't understand that but that's not a first. I'm often confused as to why some people seem to have a problem with everything.

I don't think the reviewers are genuine. How would you know if they are.

No. You're right. We don't know. It just seems like a really big conspiracy if all those fresh reviews aren't genuine (77% on RT).

And how would we know if they aren't? How would we know that all of those 77% reviewers are lying about enjoying the movie?



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Fans are confusing, and will make the shittiest movies box office gold. Like Jurassic World. If Ghostbusters really IS as terrible as everyone seems to think, that shouldn't stop them from lining up to see the movie anyway :P



Mike_L said:
Lawlight said:

I don't think the reviewers are genuine. How would you know if they are.

No. You're right. We don't know. It just seems like a really big conspiracy if all those fresh reviews aren't genuine (77% on RT).

And how would we know if they aren't? How would we know that all of those 77% reviewers are lying about enjoying the movie?

The thing about rotten tomatoes is that they don't really seperate the pool from actual reviewers and regular viewers. I mean I don't know what creditials Becky Sutter has from her site TheShiznit.co.uk, but I'm betting she's not quite an expert.



Richard Roeper of the Chicago Sun times, one of the more respected movie reviewers gave it a 25 in metacritic

I think a lot of reviewers who did not like it were afraid of going lower than 50 or 60 due to backlash like the VGN received



torok said:
Why people are using Metacritic instead of Rotten Tomatoes? While Meta is fine for games, its scores are usually ridiculously bad for movies. Rotten Tomatoes is way more accurate.

Rotten Tomatoes is actually a poor source, as they only use positive versus negative.  So a movie could be getting 6s across the board (not sure where they actually draw the positive line) but have a really high fresh rating.

Lawlight said:
Mike_L said:

So what I'm getting is that some are outraged because they believe this movie's sole purpose is to be a platform for gender politics. If that's true I see why they don't want to see the movie, I guess. But just don't watch it then. If enough people ignore it a similar thing is less likely to happen again.

Though, I find it odd that many seem to be willing to give it a try when it releases on blu-ray and streaming services. If you're certain that it's nothing more than a platform for gender politics why would you even be interested in ever watching it? Because it actually may be more than just gender politics?

 

Some of you refuse to believe the reviewers even though they actually HAVE seen the movie and genuinely liked it.

I don't understand that but that's not a first. I'm often confused as to why some people seem to have a problem with everything.

I don't think the reviewers are genuine. How would you know if they are.

Simple.  If they spend part of the review bashing detractors as bigoted, sexist trolls, they have an agenda to push and their review shouldn't count.  Like the one in the OP.



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thismeintiel said:
torok said:
Why people are using Metacritic instead of Rotten Tomatoes? While Meta is fine for games, its scores are usually ridiculously bad for movies. Rotten Tomatoes is way more accurate.

Rotten Tomatoes is actually a poor source, as they only use positive versus negative.  So a movie could be getting 6s across the board (not sure where they actually draw the positive line) but have a really high fresh rating.

Lawlight said:

I don't think the reviewers are genuine. How would you know if they are.

Simple.  If they spend part of the review bashing detractors as bigoted, sexist trolls, they have an agenda to push and their review shouldn't count.  Like the one in the OP.

Not to mention literally anyone can make an account as a critic. 



I'll be checking it out this Friday. Not expecting anything as good as the first Ghosbusters (but no third GB film would've hit that mark) but if it's about as good as Ghostbusters II ... that's good enough.

I've heard the 3D in the movie is really, really fantastic too, curious about that.



bigtakilla said:
Mike_L said:

No. You're right. We don't know. It just seems like a really big conspiracy if all those fresh reviews aren't genuine (77% on RT).

And how would we know if they aren't? How would we know that all of those 77% reviewers are lying about enjoying the movie?

The thing about rotten tomatoes is that they don't really seperate the pool from actual reviewers and regular viewers. I mean I don't know what creditials Becky Sutter has from her site TheShiznit.co.uk, but I'm betting she's not quite an expert.

She's probably not an expert, no. But maybe she genuinely enjoyed the movie and maybe moviegoers that have a similar taste will enjoy the movie as well. Some of you are certain that you won't enjoy the movie and that's fine. You don't have to watch it.

Yes, you're upset because one of your favorite movie franchises is destroyed by gender swapping but I don't know if the rumored Ghostbusters movie starring Chris Pratt and Channing Tatum would be of significant higher quality. Generally, remakes of classics tend to piss of the fanbases. Nothing new about that.

 

Usually, I like to call out tiresome and unfounded hatred that seems to be so popular nowadays but after finding out that the hatred in this instance is based on gender politics I think I'm done defending Ghostbusters reviewers.

 

I think there are far more important places to fight for gender equality than in Western countries where men and women are equal regarding almost everything. Yes, in the perfect world female workers would have the same salery as male but as long as there are women believing that men should be the ones paying for dinner and drinks and as long as there are women who refuse to marry a man who has a smaller salery than her, then naturally there will be men demanding higher saleries than their female colleges.

Regarding sexuality (which is more relevant when speaking games), I don't care if Tsubasa Oribe's cleavage is censored or not or if Tracer is posing with her butt or not as neither will affect my enjoyment of the games. I go to my gf for sex and porn when she's abroad. I don't go to games for sexy times. But I believe (my gf shares this view) that there are some groups that are being hypocritical when they claim that only women are victims of sexual objectification as men often act as sex objects as well.

In Denmark this ad was heavily criticized for objectifying women:

 

While this one wasn't criticized for objectifying men:


 

In my opinion that's the definition of hypocrisy as the ads are just as guilty in using sexual objectification.

 

Well, see this is the reason I don't want to participate in any discussions of gender politics XD



bigtakilla said:
thismeintiel said:

Rotten Tomatoes is actually a poor source, as they only use positive versus negative.  So a movie could be getting 6s across the board (not sure where they actually draw the positive line) but have a really high fresh rating.

Simple.  If they spend part of the review bashing detractors as bigoted, sexist trolls, they have an agenda to push and their review shouldn't count.  Like the one in the OP.

Not to mention literally anyone can make an account as a critic. 

Literally anyone.

 

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Mike_L said:
bigtakilla said:

The thing about rotten tomatoes is that they don't really seperate the pool from actual reviewers and regular viewers. I mean I don't know what creditials Becky Sutter has from her site TheShiznit.co.uk, but I'm betting she's not quite an expert.

She's probably not an expert, no. But maybe she genuinely enjoyed the movie and maybe moviegoers that have a similar taste will enjoy the movie as well. Some of you are certain that you won't enjoy the movie and that's fine. You don't have to watch it.

Yes, you're upset because one of your favorite movie franchises is destroyed by gender swapping but I don't know if the rumored Ghostbusters movie starring Chris Pratt and Channing Tatum would be of significant higher quality. Generally, remakes of classics tend to piss of the fanbases. Nothing new about that.


Usually, I like to call out tiresome and unfounded hatred that seems to be so popular nowadays but after finding out that the hatred in this instance is based on gender politics I think I'm done defending Ghostbusters reviewers.

 

I think there are far more important places to fight for gender equality than in Western countries where men and women are equal regarding almost everything. Yes, in the perfect world female workers would have the same salery as male but as long as there are women believing that men should be the ones paying for dinner and drinks and as long as there are women who refuse to marry a man who has a smaller salery than her, then naturally there will be men demanding higher saleries than their female colleges.

Regarding sexuality (which is more relevant when speaking games), I don't care if Tsubasa Oribe's cleavage is censored or not or if Tracer is posing with her butt or not as neither will affect my enjoyment of the games. I go to my gf for sex and porn when she's abroad. I don't go to games for sexy times. But I believe (my gf shares this view) that there are some groups that are being hypocritical when they claim that only women are victims of sexual objectification as men often act as sex objects as well.

In Denmark this ad was heavily criticized for objectifying women:

 

While this one wasn't criticized for objectifying men:


 

In my opinion that's the definition of hypocrisy as the ads are just as guilty in using sexual objectification.

 

Well, see this is the reason I don't want to participate in any discussions of gender politics XD

Huh? When did I start hating the movie due to the gender swap?