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is Batman v Superman a stupid movie?

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d21lewis said:
Now with that out of the way, I have a question: if Batman brands someone, why do inmates kill them? I'd imagine being captured by Batman would demand more respect than being captured by the police!

You seen the extended cut?

In the extended, it is revealed that Lex is getting other inmates to kill those that have been branded. 



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COKTOE said:

It looks crap to me. I will never see it unless a friend REEEEAAALY wants to watch it or something. I will never watch it of my own choice.

 

Hahahaha.

Okie_Loki said:
Qwark said:

Ah batman vs superman the movie that you either like and if you don't like it you are an idiot that likes immature dumb Marvel movies  according to DC comics fans that defend this movie . Even though critics took a huge shit over this movie and it lacked in more than one aspect, pacing being the main one. Many will claim it's a good or even great movie though. It isn't but there are some people that did liked or evrn loved the movie.

And to some like die hard Marvel fans, those of us who really enjoyed the movie are silly DC fanboys. 

What else ya got? This thread is annoying. People have shat all over this movie and find enjoyment in doing so. Its immature. 

I didn't like the movie and neither did the critics, it also got outsold by deadpool and even the user reviews aren't all that great. Around 50% (being generous here) actually liked the movie so in what aspect could this film be considered as good. Sure some people like it but almost every movie has it's fanbase that doesn't make it a good movie for the masses and that is what counts.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

Qwark said:
Okie_Loki said:

And to some like die hard Marvel fans, those of us who really enjoyed the movie are silly DC fanboys. 

What else ya got? This thread is annoying. People have shat all over this movie and find enjoyment in doing so. Its immature. 

I didn't like the movie and neither did the critics, it also got outsold by deadpool and even the user reviews aren't all that great. Around 50% (being generous here) actually liked the movie so in what aspect could this film be considered as good. Sure some people like it but almost every movie has it's fanbase that doesn't make it a good movie for the masses and that is what counts.

No. You weren't being generous.

 

Metacritic user reviews: 7.0

Imdb user reviews: 7.0

Rotten Tomatoes user reviews: 66%.

 

Giving you the benefit of the doubt, you were off by a third.

 

So, now that we know user reviews are alright,  and since you were the one using them to say the movie was bad...care to admit that the movie is fine?



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Wow, such a divisive movie. I saw it a few months ago and enjoyed it, though it certainly had some glaring problems, the foremost being that it felt like 3 or 4 movies shoe-horned into one. I do think many of the OP's questions were answered by the movie, but that doesn't make the answers any more satisfying. I was puzzled by the odd vision Bruce had and felt like the Martha plot was a total reach and implausible, but I enjoyed the movie's action and honestly thought it was about as good as Age of Ultron (though Civil War was much better).



Ariakon said:
Wow, such a divisive movie. I saw it a few months ago and enjoyed it, though it certainly had some glaring problems, the foremost being that it felt like 3 or 4 movies shoe-horned into one. I do think many of the OP's questions were answered by the movie, but that doesn't make the answers any more satisfying. I was puzzled by the odd vision Bruce had and felt like the Martha plot was a total reach and implausible, but I enjoyed the movie's action and honestly thought it was about as good as Age of Ultron (though Civil War was much better).

dont get me started about age of ultron. the more you think about it, the shitter that movie becomes. but its still miles better than BvS. at least its entertaining at times. 



bananaking21 said:

so i watched it the other day, its a stupid movie, so much makes no fucking sense. here are just some of the questions i had regarding this movie. this is just stuff that didnt make sense to me, or questions i have about the movie that feel like they are major plot holes. im not even getting into the shitty dialogue.

How DARE you insinuate that this movie had a plot!  

 

- what the fuck was that dream? and why the fuck was it in the movie? it didnt mean anything

It was sequel-baiting, showing us a dark future of Darkseid's reign over Earth with Superman as an enforcer.  Basically, at some point, Snyder realized how shitty BvS was, so he showed us a few minutes of a better movie and forced it in with a Flash cameo.  

- why was superman suddenly concerned about batman, when batman has been doing his thing for 20 years now?

Only recently has Batman been torturing people.  The weird part is how nobody gave a shit that Batman's kid sidekick wielded a battle-ready halberd.

- why did batman suddenly stop wanting to kill superman, and being afraid of his power, because both of their mothers name is martha?

Because reasons.

- why would kryptonians carry kryptonite on their ship if it weakens them?

Because Snyder realized that Batman had no way to figure out that Kryptonians were weakened by their own atmosphere (Man of Steel) and thus could not weaponize the established vulnerability.  Knowing this and being a terrible writer, he defaulted to the Kryptonian allergy, despite Superman going to extreme lengths in MoS to keep humanity far from anything remotely relevant to his people.

- why was lex luthor allowed full access to the ship site and zod's body without any supervision what so ever? he isnt a goverment official, why did he have access without even somebody saying "hey, what ya doin?"

Because Lex Luthor was the saddest, sad sack they've ever seen--clearly a mentally-unhinged man-child--so they thought to themselves "What could possibly go wrong?"  The real question is why Superman allowed humans within a hundred miles of that stuff when in MoS he was Hellbent on keeping people away from stuff like that.  Because reasons?

- when superman and luise lane have sex, does she call him daddy?

Naw, she's his dom.

- lex wanted to kill superman because he was afraid he could use his power to destroy or hurt humanity. so his answer to that was to create a monster that is even stronger than superman to kill superman... then kill humanity... how does this make sense?

Because Snyder was already shitting on Dark Knight Returns, Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman Origins, Injustice Gods Among Us, Flashpoint Paradox; he really, really wanted to shit on Death of Superman, too.

- lex knew batman had the kryptonite that was stolen from him, what would lex have done if batman actually killed superman using it, what was going to happen with doomsday then?

Lex would have filed that under "Not My Problem Anymore".

- lex has been spying on wonder woman for a long time, digging up kryptonite and doing all sorts of shit, why didnt he have one fucking security guard to guard his data? which could have been stolen within just 7 minutes

Because Lex had backup copies of all this data, so he thought to himself "If I don't mess with Wonder Woman for poops and giggles, Snyder won't be able to force her into the movie!"

- how did lex know how to create doomsday? how was it even possible? why would the kryptonian ship know how to do it, how does it even have the equipment to do it? how did lex even know what the fuck it was doing? what was doomsday made of, zods dead body and that water thing in the ship? this whole thing just doesnt make sense to me.

Lex really, really wanted to help Snyder shit on Death of Superman.  Lex remembered how mopey he was when he didn't have a hand in Superman's death.

- if wonder womans sword could cut off doomsdays hand, why didnt they just use it to kill doomsday instead of the kryptonite? since it obviously can hurt it. 

Because that would have JUSTIfied her being in the movie and that would have broken the combo.  Awwwwww, Justice League pun epic fail.

- why would batman drag doomsday back to the city near the spear, when he could have just quickly flied there and back to where doomsday was with the spear? it would have been a lot easier for him to just go get it and come back to doomsday.

Because they thought that fewer people would be in danger if they went with their plan----and they might have been right if Doomsday hadn't started randomly exploding.  The whole spear was stupid, though.  Thematically, it would have made more sense for the Bat to carry the Kryptonite on his person in a lead case (though Superman forgot he had X-Ray vision in this movie, but Batman couldn't have KNOWN about Plot-Induced Stupidity) and instead of using it as a knife, uses it at a branding iron.  It would keep with his treatment of criminals, and he'd be able to put it away in the lead case afterward--not to mention it'd still be available even if the fight didn't happen to wind up exactly where the Bat needed it to.  But hey---since when does Batman have contingency plans, am I right?

- after being in space, and a fucking nuke hitting and exploding doomsday and superman from beneath, how did doomsday return back to earth? when there was no gravity to pull him, the nuke's explosion logically pushing him further into space (not sure if that makes sense even, can a nuke explode in space?), and his entire momentum pushing him further away from earth?  shouldnt he have drifted away in space?

At the very least, it should have taken well over an hour for Doomsday to fall.  The ground is very, very far away when you're in space.  Batman would have had time to grab the spear, weaponize it for Doomsday, prep the Batplane, coordinate a two-pronged attack with Wonder Woman and join the Mile High Club---all before Doomsday hits the ground.

- how did wonder woman come to lex's party in the first place? wasnt she laying low? then how did she get invited to the party? 

Because Wonder Woman wouldn't been in the movie otherwise, and then they wouldn't be able to bask in Gal Gadot's reflected hotness on set.  

- why did people think superman killed those people in the desert when they were shot, why would superman even use a gun? the guy can shoot lasers out of his fucking eyes. 

Dude.  It's not like the World's Greatest Detective would have any desire to investigate the------oh.  Huh.  Well, I guess Batman's entire motivation in the movie would have driven him to do this.  Okay.  Dude, it's not like the World's Greatest Detective is just across the harb-----oh.  Huh.  Guess the WGD was just...right over there...and completely willing/able to to confirm/deny Superman's involvement.  I guess humans are just.......stupid.....because reasons?

- i still dont know if people knew that superman was clark kent. it doesnt make sense if they couldnt tell. not one bit.

"There's no way that Superman is Clark Kent.  Clark Kent wears glasses.  If he took 'em off, he wouldn't be able to see."--humanity. 

It was a stupid, stupid movie, and it expected the audience to make excuses for its failings.  The truth is, the Director is beholden to the audience (not the other way around) and Snyder failed this duty on mythic proportions.



Let me answer this one. You people don't fully realize the genius of Zack Snyder. He was the only one who accurately portrayed Spartans, the heavy Hoplite infantry of Greece were actually shirtless guys with swords and spears who rarely held the phalanx formation, rather they would bravely charge the field all the time, like men!

So, as promised, I'll handle this one:

Q - what the fuck was that dream? and why the fuck was it in the movie? it didnt mean anything
A - The dream told Batman that Superman was going to destroy the world. How? Batman has bat-prophecy power! Didn't you read the comic?

Q - why was superman suddenly concerned about batman, when batman has been doing his thing for 20 years now?
A - Superman didn't know about Batman before. You can't expect a man as busy as Superman to keep up on the news from a city that is over a kilometer away! He's a super hero, not some silly news guy.

Q - why did batman suddenly stop wanting to kill superman, and being afraid of his power, because both of their mothers name is martha?
A - Duh! That's also why the Irish in the North stopped fighting too. All their mothers names were Martha. It's common knowledge.


Q - why would kryptonians carry kryptonite on their ship if it weakens them?
A - Use logic! It's so they could have weapons to kill other Kryptonians. They're not idiots!

Q - why was lex luthor allowed full access to the ship site and zod's body without any supervision what so ever? he isnt a goverment official, why did he have access without even somebody saying "hey, what ya doin?"
A - Lex is rich.

Q - when superman and luise lane have sex, does she call him daddy?
A - Super daddy..

Q - lex wanted to kill superman because he was afraid he could use his power to destroy or hurt humanity. so his answer to that was to create a monster that is even stronger than superman to kill superman... then kill humanity... how does this make sense?
A - Lex is Trump supporter.

Q - lex knew batman had the kryptonite that was stolen from him, what would lex have done if batman actually killed superman using it, what was going to happen with doomsday then?
A - I think you are looking for problems where obviously NONE EXIST!
Next question...

Q - lex has been spying on wonder woman for a long time, digging up kryptonite and doing all sorts of shit, why didnt he have one fucking security guard to guard his data? which could have been stolen within just 7 minutes
A - Huh? All corporations leave their databases unlocked just down the stairs from their kitchen.

Q - how did lex know how to create doomsday? how was it even possible? why would the kryptonian ship know how to do it, how does it even have the equipment to do it? how did lex even know what the fuck it was doing? what was doomsday made of, zods dead body and that water thing in the ship? this whole thing just doesnt make sense to me.
A - Because he's rich.

Q - if wonder womans sword could cut off doomsdays hand, why didnt they just use it to kill doomsday instead of the kryptonite? since it obviously can hurt it.
A - How do you expect Wonder Woman to know that? It's an unrealistic explanation. Plus Doomsday obviously has a super spine, his head won't come off without kryptonite.

Q - why would batman drag doomsday back to the city near the spear, when he could have just quickly flied there and back to where doomsday was with the spear? it would have been a lot easier for him to just go get it and come back to doomsday.
A - I think Batman is smarter than you!

Q - after being in space, and a fucking nuke hitting and exploding doomsday and superman from beneath, how did doomsday return back to earth? when there was no gravity to pull him, the nuke's explosion logically pushing him further into space (not sure if that makes sense even, can a nuke explode in space?), and his entire momentum pushing him further away from earth? shouldnt he have drifted away in space?
A - He has super powers, he can fly. He's be a fairly shitty super hero if he couldn't!

Q - how did wonder woman come to lex's party in the first place? wasnt she laying low? then how did she get invited to the party?
A - She is Wonder Woman, wouldn't YOU invite her?

Q - why did people think superman killed those people in the desert when they were shot, why would superman even use a gun? the guy can shoot lasers out of his fucking eyes.
A - Obviously those people didn't know about his eye lasers.

Q - i still dont know if people knew that superman was clark kent. it doesnt make sense if they couldnt tell. not one bit.
A - SPOILER!!!!!



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irstupid said:
crissindahouse said:

I think a not so well known actor is not comparable with a real Superman who would be the best known being on the planet.

I mean, if Obama would walk around in Washington people would recognize him even if he would call himself different.

But that's not really a problem of this movie and more of the whole Superman franchise. 

Fair points, but also not proving your point.

I mean this was a day or two before the opening. You couldn't turn on the television without seeing a commercial. Superman as a character is the most recognized person in the entire world. Now here is a guy who plays him, is wearing a t-shirt and is walking around downtown with giant billboards of him all over the place.  

THis is him wearing a superman t-shirt and no glasses on. Sure he would be recognized way easier if wearing superman suit, but he was also not dressed as clark kent. More of a mix of the two.

There is always that psychological explanation for Clark Kent. The whole argument that your brain will convince you against something obvious because you don't or can't belive it. I mean if there were a Superman, and there was someone at your work that looked similar to him would you believe that its him? I mean here is this guy who can shoot solar flares out of his eyes, fly, lift millions of pounds, invulnerable, ect and yet there he is filling his water up at the fridge and writing a story about Kim Kardashian. Or insert whatever work environment you want. I'm sure you'll ask him, watch him, try and catch him ect. But in the end assume its just a likeness. There are sites that youcan easily see most celeb dopplegangers, or heck people alter their looks, hair, even plastic surgery to look like a celeb. If there were a superman, don't you think he would be the most sought after male in the entire world from females. If I looked even a 1/10th like him, I woudl alter my hair, ect to try and look as close to him as I could to also attract girls. 

You're assuming too much. A lot of people could of reconized him. Wouldn't of approach him. Because of the photo guy following him, etc. Not everyone is confortable to just walk up to an actor. The photo's/video's could of been cherry picked. And people just not caring. There's a reason why that MIB 2 joke, with the worm in the train station exsists. I'm a New Yorker. That's kind of true. If something dumb/weird is going on. The first response is: "Is the train gonna be fucking late now?"

The phychological aspect isn't really good excuse. Because it isn't visible, for the camera. What the movies could do, is show at least some people go up to him. Then and flat out ask him. And he just says no. But then it goes into the other areas. Of people following him around, till he gets caught. Which happens in the TV show versions a lot. That's how Batman got him, in Superman TAS. Because they got time to do that story. Also, the amount of cameras we have everywhere. No matter how fast, or good you are. He'd get caught. That's were the logic starts getting in the way. People just like to see some aspect of acknolegement, in the movies. The one thing Superman Returns did good, was that joke scene about them noticing. That moment is your perfect example of phychological explanation.