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is Batman v Superman a stupid movie?

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d21lewis on 01 July 2016

I'm in the wrong thread.



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Jpcc86 on 01 July 2016

Yes, it's a bad film with bad editing, pacing, terrible plot structure and very questionable plot devices and - in some specific cases - bad acting. And it's rightfully criticized. Let's not defend a low quality product.

Still im glad it got the backlash it got because from this point forward the following DC films can only improve upon it.



fedfed on 01 July 2016

the stupidest movie I have ever seen in my life.... (almost) so ugly



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Lawlight on 01 July 2016
irstupid said:
bananaking21 said:

so i watched it the other day, its a stupid movie, so much makes no fucking sense. here are just some of the questions i had regarding this movie. this is just stuff that didnt make sense to me, or questions i have about the movie that feel like they are major plot holes. im not even getting into the shitty dialogue.

- what the fuck was that dream? and why the fuck was it in the movie? it didnt mean anything

1. Some tease to Injustice or something. I agree should have been 100% cut from movie. Only people I see that love it are super die hard fans that think its the only good part of the movie. I think its the worst.

- why was superman suddenly concerned about batman, when batman has been doing his thing for 20 years now?

2. Batman had only recently started to become cruel, branding and so on. Also Batman has been doing this for 20 years. It's not breaking news for the world. He is no longer water cooler talk. And as Perry White said, "breaking news, crime in gotham.  In other news water is wet" Batman isn't breaking news. 

- why did batman suddenly stop wanting to kill superman, and being afraid of his power, because both of their mothers name is martha?

3. The Martha thing is an iceburg situation. People meming the Martha thing are only looking at whats above the surface. Martha, same name, best friends, hahahahha.  There is a handful of things that happen in that scene. Batman sees Superman as a man, has a mother, has people that love him. He see's himself killing someone, and/or letting someone elses mom die. His rage is blocked for a moment and starts to peice together events and sees he has been played. Ect. This all from just the shock of hearing his MOM's name in this strange moment. We all know how unlike Tony Stark, Batman's ENTIRE mythos revolves around his parents death.

- why would kryptonians carry kryptonite on their ship if it weakens them?

4. Kryptonite is a radioactive mineral from Krytpon. Not much of a stretch to find a radioactive material on a space ship, or world engine. Also they were not superbeings on their planet. Hardly notice it I imagine.

- why was lex luthor allowed full access to the ship site and zod's body without any supervision what so ever? he isnt a goverment official, why did he have access without even somebody saying "hey, what ya doin?"

5. Lex is a billianaire and gave some government officials what they wanted. Not a stretch. The government had it for 18 months, what was to let them believe that Lex would destroy the world. They would have taken all they thought htey could, he could. Your naivety reminds me of Jena Malones quote in the movie. "Stuff like this still shocking you is what makes you a good reporter" Though remove that good reporter, cause your questions make you sound like a horrible reporter.

- when superman and luise lane have sex, does she call him daddy?

6. Grow up

- lex wanted to kill superman because he was afraid he could use his power to destroy or hurt humanity. so his answer to that was to create a monster that is even stronger than superman to kill superman... then kill humanity... how does this make sense?

7. Lex gave many reasons for his hatred of superman. Not one of them was for his power to destroy the world. That was Batman's reasons.  Also the movie hints taht Lex expected Doomsday to obay him due to his blood. He sure didn't expect doomsday to instantly try and kill him.

- lex knew batman had the kryptonite that was stolen from him, what would lex have done if batman actually killed superman using it, what was going to happen with doomsday then?

8. Fairly certain Lex wanted Batman to steal the kryptonite. And what do you mean what would he have done? For all we know he could have cancelled the doomsday. I mean his timer eneded before the countdown did. Maybe he could have said cancel to the machine. I mean at the end of the countdown, the ship shocks the embryo with energy, like a frankenstein awakening. I would assume that him saying cancel, woudl have prevented that action adn Doomsday not coming to be.

- lex has been spying on wonder woman for a long time, digging up kryptonite and doing all sorts of shit, why didnt he have one fucking security guard to guard his data? which could have been stolen within just 7 minutes

9. Pretty sure he wanted Batman to steal his data. I'm sure Mercy Graves told him that Bruce was there, and Lex knows who Bruce is. Did you notice in the Batman training montage and when he was making the spear, that he was using Lex's database to help him make his weapons. Also Lex mentioning to him at the party that they shoudl team up and Bruce shoudl see what his R&D team has been up to.

- how did lex know how to create doomsday? how was it even possible? why would the kryptonian ship know how to do it, how does it even have the equipment to do it? how did lex even know what the fuck it was doing? what was doomsday made of, zods dead body and that water thing in the ship? this whole thing just doesnt make sense to me.

10. The ship said it has 100,000 worlds of knowledge. It's a kryptonian ship. Why would it not know how to make a kryptonian weapon. The ship woudl obviously have the tools to make it. It was a ship that had embryo's to make kryptonians in it. Recal from Man of Steel the ship. It wasn't a normal ship, it was one that could create life.

- if wonder womans sword could cut off doomsdays hand, why didnt they just use it to kill doomsday instead of the kryptonite? since it obviously can hurt it. 

11. Rewatch teh fight. Everytime the military hit it with gun fire, the spot it was hit with glowed red as it absorbed that energy and contined to become stronger. Then when Wonder Woman and Superman were both fighting it, each sword cut, shield bash, superman punch also made a red glow where it connected. Doomsday was also absorbing and taking that info in to become stronger. Hell when she cut off his hand it grew back to be stronger. That is Doomsday. Cutting off his head would not have worked. He would have just regrown a body and been stronger

- why would batman drag doomsday back to the city near the spear, when he could have just quickly flied there and back to where doomsday was with the spear? it would have been a lot easier for him to just go get it and come back to doomsday.

12. He coudl have left and gone and grabbed the spear, but while he was flying away and grabbing the spear, Doomsday woudl not have sat still waiting. So while Batman is off finding a spear doomsday is killing thousands in teh city. Batman finds the spear and then rushes to doomsday. Might not be as easy/possible to lure him away from the city again. If anything complain about Batman not trying to find spear as Superman/Wonder Woman fight. 

- after being in space, and a fucking nuke hitting and exploding doomsday and superman from beneath, how did doomsday return back to earth? when there was no gravity to pull him, the nuke's explosion logically pushing him further into space (not sure if that makes sense even, can a nuke explode in space?), and his entire momentum pushing him further away from earth?  shouldnt he have drifted away in space?

13. No point even bother with this. A F*ing nuke blew up in their faces, they are super beings, who knows how this would react. Heck the explosion could have ended and he being still alive could have kicked off of superman towards earth. Who cares.

- how did wonder woman come to lex's party in the first place? wasnt she laying low? then how did she get invited to the party? 

14. Who knows how she was invited. Why don't you ask how anyone else was invited. She is a freaking 5,000 year old lady. Probably snuck in. WHo's going to turn away a sexy lady. 

- why did people think superman killed those people in the desert when they were shot, why would superman even use a gun? the guy can shoot lasers out of his fucking eyes. 

15. The bodies were burnt. Watch the Ultimate cut

- i still dont know if people knew that superman was clark kent. it doesnt make sense if they couldnt tell. not one bit.
16. Oldest pointless complaint in the book. 

Is it just me, or does it feel like most haters of this feel have to be people that have zero comprehension ability. It's all in the movie, or simple thinking to explain all of these.

Pretty much.



Angelus on 01 July 2016

As somebody that wanted to love the movie, but didn't.... recognises it's an objectively flawed movie, with poor pacing, some poorly thought out major plot elements, and a Lex Luthor that's kinda all over the place......

I can't help but agree that the way people have relentlessly bashed this movie for every minor detail is absurd. There have been a lot of threads about this already when the movie came out so I don't really wanna write a huge post here, but suffice it to say I think it's accurate to say that people are really going out of their way to hate this movie, and at this point it's getting really old.



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d21lewis on 01 July 2016
Angelus said:
As somebody that wanted to love the movie, but didn't.... recognises it's an objectively flawed movie, with poor pacing, some poorly thought out major plot elements, and a Lex Luthor that's kinda all over the place......

I can't help but agree that the way people have relentlessly bashed this movie for every minor detail is absurd. There have been a lot of threads about this already when the movie came out so I don't really wanna write a huge post here, but suffice it to say I think it's accurate to say that people are really going out of their way to hate this movie, and at this point it's getting really old.

This. I admit I probably loved it more than most but seeing people hold this movie to a standard that I rarely, if ever, see other movies held to--it's frustrating.

 

I literally hated Spider-man 2 but I never went after anybody who enjoyed it. With this film, people are coming together and rejoicing in their hatred! I apologize for being vocal about disliking Star Wars TFA. It's not good a good feeling when the shoe is on the other foot. 



d21lewis on 01 July 2016

Now with that out of the way, I have a question: if Batman brands someone, why do inmates kill them? I'd imagine being captured by Batman would demand more respect than being captured by the police!



Qwark on 01 July 2016

Ah batman vs superman the movie that you either like and if you don't like it you are an idiot that likes immature dumb Marvel movies  according to DC comics fans that defend this movie . Even though critics took a huge shit over this movie and it lacked in more than one aspect, pacing being the main one. Many will claim it's a good or even great movie though. It isn't but there are some people that did liked or evrn loved the movie.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

d21lewis on 01 July 2016
Qwark said:

Ah batman vs superman the movie that you either like and if you don't like it you are an idiot that likes immature dumb Marvel movies  according to DC comics fans that defend this movie . Even though critics took a huge shit over this movie and it lacked in more than one aspect, pacing being the main one. Many will claim it's a good or even great movie though. It isn't but there are some people that did liked or evrn loved the movie.

People who don't like it think people who do like it are dumb. People who do like it think people who don't like it are dumb.

I say we're all dumb!



Okie_Loki on 01 July 2016
Qwark said:

Ah batman vs superman the movie that you either like and if you don't like it you are an idiot that likes immature dumb Marvel movies  according to DC comics fans that defend this movie . Even though critics took a huge shit over this movie and it lacked in more than one aspect, pacing being the main one. Many will claim it's a good or even great movie though. It isn't but there are some people that did liked or evrn loved the movie.

And to some like die hard Marvel fans, those of us who really enjoyed the movie are silly DC fanboys. 

What else ya got? This thread is annoying. People have shat all over this movie and find enjoyment in doing so. Its immature.