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A shame, I was hoping SO5 would be good. Never finished S04, will not buy this considering how competitive the gaming and rpgs markets are, and how much free time I have.



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I mean it looks good but it's yet another JRPG that refuses to do anything new or different. Predictable to say the least. I'm still picking it up, it looks amazing but I understand the scores thus far. Too much of the same.



Ljink96 said:
I mean it looks good but it's yet another JRPG that refuses to do anything new or different. Predictable to say the least. I'm still picking it up, it looks amazing but I understand the scores thus far. Too much of the same.

If I remember correctly, wasnt it you that I was having the debate with in the FF15 thread? So Star Ocean remains completely traditional - Bad. FF15 does breaks out of the "predictable" mold and becomes "this isnt Final Fantasy"

Yes, still pick up. Pretty damn fun so far, not the best in anything but still fun. 



Xxain said:
Ljink96 said:
I mean it looks good but it's yet another JRPG that refuses to do anything new or different. Predictable to say the least. I'm still picking it up, it looks amazing but I understand the scores thus far. Too much of the same.

If I remember correctly, wasnt it you that I was having the debate with in the FF15 thread? So Star Ocean remains completely traditional - Bad. FF15 does breaks out of the "predictable" mold and becomes "this isnt Final Fantasy"

Yes, still pick up. Pretty damn fun so far, not the best in anything but still fun. 

You...again... Okay, I didn't say too much of the same is "bad". I didn't even use the word or anything of the sort. Nor did I say Finaly Fantasy XV breaking the mold was a bad thing, simply my opinion that because it breaks out of the predictable mold, that it isn't like Classic FF. But as a general consensus, that's how gamers feel about the game. I've read a ton of the metacritic reviews, online streams (Just watched one an hour ago with OBE1 Plays on Youtube) and it all revolves around mechanics, story archs, being too similar. What Final Fantasy does, it does it well, past or present. The same track record doesn't apply to Star Ocean. In my opinion. Bye. 



Ljink96 said:
Xxain said:

If I remember correctly, wasnt it you that I was having the debate with in the FF15 thread? So Star Ocean remains completely traditional - Bad. FF15 does breaks out of the "predictable" mold and becomes "this isnt Final Fantasy"

Yes, still pick up. Pretty damn fun so far, not the best in anything but still fun. 

You...again... Okay, I didn't say too much of the same is "bad". I didn't even use the word or anything of the sort. But as a general consensus, that's how gamers feel about the game. I've read a ton of the metacritic reviews, online streams (Just watched one an hour ago with OBE1 Plays on Youtube) and it all revolves around mechanics, story archs, being too similar. What Final Fantasy does, it does it well, past or present. The same track record doesn't apply to Star Ocean. In my opinion. Bye. 

I knew that you were going to go that route.

You didnt have to use the word "bad" but the tone says as much. It also doesnt help by following it up with general consensus of gamers, who actually view the deja vu as a negative. Then you follow it with a "but Im going to get it anyway" ... Now, I dont know about you but it doesnt make sense to me to follow up like that when your if your sentiments on the been there done that were anything but negative. I think I asked a simple questions. Dont get bent outta shape, your on a forum. Be willing to explain/defend your stance. Especially on this site.



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Cloudman said:
Ruler said:

 

Even if true it doesnt change the fact that metacritic should represent different opinions and outlets. That an important site like Famitsu isnt represented to give their score is pretty ignorant and down right discrimantory too. 

Do you mean Metacritic accepting famitsu's scores too? How would that work? Isn't it based on a 40 point system? I guess they could take the 4 individual's scores and add them all. I guess what's stopping that is Famitsu's a Japanese magazine publisher, and.. they don't know Japanese either. Plus, translating that for English for Metacritic may be a bit troublesome for them.

 

Either way, it doesn't matter to me. I don't use metacritic reviews to base my decisions on buying a game, haha.

there are countless reviews who are accepted in metacritic but have a different score system like 5 stars. For example Famitsu gave Star Ocean 5 a score of 34/40, thats an 85 on metacritic.

And reviews in different languages, it doesnt matter. They are still accepting reviews from italy or france for example who are completley in their native languages. All they do is translate the final words/conclusion to the review so it can be displayed on the metacritic site.

Chazore said:
Ruler said:

How is it xenophobia if i point out that most reviewers are from western countries while japanese reviewers are absent like Famitsu? 

There were quite a lot of people in this thread who openly said they are going to cancel their pre-order or prospone the purchase. So its clearly a lot of people do listen to these reviewers, western reviewers. 

You have long since displayed a spiteful attitude towards most Western games and devs, favored Japanese games, devs, pubs and systems easily over anything Western, that type of attitude towards a different side of the world is a case of xenophobia. I've yet to find anyone else on this forum who displays the exact same attitude and behaviour as you towards the entire Western world.

If there are no Japanese reviews for the Japanese game then simply blame those people, not the West, don't even involve the West in something that has to do with Japan getting their reviews out and their shit together.

Listening to a few reviews alone isn't what you should be basing your purchase on entirely, I go by extensive (not shown just by trailers) gameplay footage, price points, all sorts of reviews, not just only the big sites, I go by certain youtube reviews as well since they tend to go in depth to places that big reviewers tend to skip. I basically do my own research before buying a game, big name reviews alone don't even begin to suffice, so those relying only on meta can do what they do but personal research and using more sources of input are better than one source.

Also some people here have decided to cancel their *pre-order*, that isn't to directly say they will never ever buy the game and even then this forum is but a very tiny fraction of people who would/wouldn't buy the game vs those outside this site around the world.

Japanese have to get their shit together? Listen to yourself here chazore thats downright Xenophobic talk from yourself, and i can recall you saying you would never want to use a Japanese OS simple for the fact that they are not western so stop calling me xenophobic. 

But how has that anything to do with Japanese reviewers being absent from Metacrtic which is discriminatory? I am pretty sure if Famitsu and other japanese reviewers could give their review they would, but they cant just as you dont see any other none western country im metacritic.

Do you see for example reviews from latin america, africa, arabic world, former soviet union, china, korea or other parts in asia on metacritic? Damn what a coincedence, they all cant get their shit together unlike the mighty west, yeah sure.

Look also at Snoopys comment and you call me here the most xenophobic and spitefull person on this site?

Snoopy said:
JRPGS are dying and if you don't believe me just look at ff15. Time to accept it, wrpg won and so did America

how is it you dont go after him instead of me? 



mymuro said:

The reviewers are being generous with tri-ace. This game should be 40/100 max. Even Japanese gave it 2.5/5 on amazon.jp:

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%B9%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A7%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BB%E3%82%A8%E3%83%8B%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B35-Integrity-and-Faithlessness/dp/B015E13132

 

Dont waster your money as it will be 1/6 of its MSRP soon like the Asian market.

What does Amazon JP user reviews have to do with anything? I remember Dragon Quest 9 getting even worse user reviews, but that was due to anger at some specific design choices vs actual game critique. 



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Ruler said:

first impressions from someone i trust on youtube 

Games looks awesome and I always loved the SO series. I'm very happy they brought it back on PS4. Video is spot on about Western reviewers. If you cancel a preorder because of a meta score on a JRPG then you're not really a fan of the series.



50+ on metacritic

A JRPG

My kind of game. lol!