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LudicrousSpeed on 21 June 2016

They should die about 1 hour after the sentence is handed down.



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MoHasanie on 21 June 2016

I support it. We should eliminate criminals who have commited the worst crimes, they don't deserve to live.



    

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sundin13 on 21 June 2016
LuckyTrouble said:
 If someone is a convicted and confessed serial killer?

Worth noting that false confessions due to pressure during the interrogation process aren't unheard of...



Xxain on 21 June 2016

Heres what I think - Instead of killing them we should form a secret PMF where dangerous people are placed and then are sent to fight proxy wars in 3rd world countries



Aeolus451 on 21 June 2016

Hmm. Basically any violent criminal act or active plot/plan for a violent criminal act would be acceptable reasons to execute a person in my opinion. The real problem in the states is how executions are done from the courtroom to the actual execution. I think that some politicians in the past that opposed executions purposely made it a expensive and lengthy process to execute violent criminals to dissuade everyone from utilizing it. The process needs to be changed to make it an inexpensive and efficient means to removing humans that are far less than humans. 



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Lawlight on 24 June 2016
Pemalite said:
Lawlight said:

It doesn't work in the US because it's not used in all states or very often.

Do you think you can force those people to work? Nah, they'll be a waste of money. And we're lucky in Australia because we have a low population.

Some prisons in Australia already do have their Prison population work, I know mine does, they farm crops, allot of that food is given to the poor, homeless, charity. etc'.
The way it should be.

Population really doesn't have much to do with it, standard of living is a *massive* factor in crime rates, especially in regards to health, income, jobs, opportunities etc'.
Plus we have an effective gun-control system, that has worked extremely well.

And I quote: "In October 2013, the incarceration rate of the United States of America was the highest in the world, at 716 per 100,000 of the national population. 
While the United States represents about 4.4 percent of the world's population, it houses around 22 percent of the world's prisoners."

In other words, the Death Penalty has not worked has it? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate

Australia by comparison has an incarceration rate of 205 prisoners per 100,000 of the national population. - We don't have the death penalty.
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/4512.0

As I said, it does not work in the US because they keep a prisoner sentenced to death in prison for 10+ years. And we both know that the incarceration rate in Australia is low because the judges prefer to let the criminals go. Like these mofos:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3588714/Aspiring-actress-Claire-Helen-walks-free-allegedly-punching-police-officer-Kings-Cross.html

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/magistrate-sparks-outrage-cowards-punch-comment/2204523/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3548117/Judge-refuses-watch-video-horrific-assault-dog-walker.html

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/29795405/magistrate-refuses-to-watch-coward-punch-on-cctv/

So, if justice isn't being served, of course, our incarceration rate would be low.


LudicrousSpeed said:
They should die about 1 hour after the sentence is handed down.

This guy gets it. One quick injection and incineration should do the trick.



Pemalite on 24 June 2016
Lawlight said:

As I said, it does not work in the US because they keep a prisoner sentenced to death in prison for 10+ years. And we both know that the incarceration rate in Australia is low because the judges prefer to let the criminals go. Like these mofos:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3588714/Aspiring-actress-Claire-Helen-walks-free-allegedly-punching-police-officer-Kings-Cross.html

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/magistrate-sparks-outrage-cowards-punch-comment/2204523/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3548117/Judge-refuses-watch-video-horrific-assault-dog-walker.html

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/29795405/magistrate-refuses-to-watch-coward-punch-on-cctv/

So, if justice isn't being served, of course, our incarceration rate would be low.

You will need to provide some hard statistics to back up that bold claim rather than baseless conjecture based on news reports. (I could find American news reports where the exact same thing happens.)

Lawlight said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
They should die about 1 hour after the sentence is handed down.

This guy gets it. One quick injection and incineration should do the trick.

See. Australia went down this path once before, untill technology caught up and found that those who were found guilty and were put to death were actually innocent.
It is WHY we abolished the death penalty and made it one of our international mandates to abolish the death penalty.




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Lawlight on 24 June 2016
Pemalite said:
Lawlight said:

As I said, it does not work in the US because they keep a prisoner sentenced to death in prison for 10+ years. And we both know that the incarceration rate in Australia is low because the judges prefer to let the criminals go. Like these mofos:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3588714/Aspiring-actress-Claire-Helen-walks-free-allegedly-punching-police-officer-Kings-Cross.html

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/magistrate-sparks-outrage-cowards-punch-comment/2204523/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3548117/Judge-refuses-watch-video-horrific-assault-dog-walker.html

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/29795405/magistrate-refuses-to-watch-coward-punch-on-cctv/

So, if justice isn't being served, of course, our incarceration rate would be low.

You will need to provide some hard statistics to back up that bold claim rather than baseless conjecture based on news reports. (I could find American news reports where the exact same thing happens.)

Lawlight said:

This guy gets it. One quick injection and incineration should do the trick.

See. Australia went down this path once before, untill technology caught up and found that those who were found guilty and were put to death were actually innocent.
It is WHY we abolished the death penalty and made it one of our international mandates to abolish the death penalty.

Statistics on justice not being served?

If technology has caught up then we'll know they are innocent then, wouldn't we?



Pemalite on 25 June 2016
Lawlight said:
Pemalite said:

You will need to provide some hard statistics to back up that bold claim rather than baseless conjecture based on news reports. (I could find American news reports where the exact same thing happens.)

See. Australia went down this path once before, untill technology caught up and found that those who were found guilty and were put to death were actually innocent.
It is WHY we abolished the death penalty and made it one of our international mandates to abolish the death penalty.

Statistics on justice not being served?

If technology has caught up then we'll know they are innocent then, wouldn't we?

Statistics on Australia's justice system not carrying out sentences relative to other countries. Otherwise it's only opinionated conjecture.

Lawlight said:

If technology has caught up then we'll know they are innocent then, wouldn't we?

Then I hope you are never falsely accused of a crime and put to death.




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Lawlight on 25 June 2016
Pemalite said:
Lawlight said:

Statistics on justice not being served?

If technology has caught up then we'll know they are innocent then, wouldn't we?

Statistics on Australia's justice system not carrying out sentences relative to other countries. Otherwise it's only opinionated conjecture.

Lawlight said:

If technology has caught up then we'll know they are innocent then, wouldn't we?

Then I hope you are never falsely accused of a crime and put to death.

Unfortunately, these stats aren't recorded. Not surprising given how inefficient our justice system is. But I have provided several proof of that happening. There is no conjecture someone coward punching someone and getting away free.

Also, there is a difference between getting falsely accused and being proven guilty.