Should parents also not be allowed to choose a name for their child, whether or not they should go to school, whether or not they should play outside or sit at home gaming, whether or not to put themselves in harms way or know how to be safe and so on? Why is gender suddenly exempted from every other social behaviour?

Gender is most likely a cultural result of our natural behavior. Everything can be traced back to us being biochemically constructed beings, and our social expressions is a result of our biology. It´s why I also think we are not heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual, just sexual overall. The rest is a social contruct, just like gender.

You guys living in the West are too wealthy and have it too good for your own sake. If you're so bored that you start pondering on such bs and treating this as an important issue, then maybe you really need this muslim invasion to set your minds straight again?


You are what you are born. Male, female, in rare cases you may suffer from a defect and be born a hermaphodite, then you are that and it's eot.

Holy Hell...too many people don't understand the difference between sex and gender, I see.

OT: Once the kid can walk and talk and form their own identity, it's up to them. Until then just don't overcomplicate it and go with whatever makes sense.

He was lucky. It must often be wrong as it seems doctors vastly prefer the female form, easier perhaps.

There's still so much we don't know. We can see anormalities in genetalia and measure anormalities in hormone levels, yet what actually goes on in the brain is still mostly a mystery. More fascinating is the resistence against the thought of transgender people. Nothing in biology is as simple as A or B. Why would gender be any different, it's just another evolutionary mechanism.

I'm completely fine with teenagers going on hormones or having sex changes/body augmentation to change their sex to what they identify with but on the other hand...

To be frank, doing that to a kid that early is fucked up. Kids are not little dolls where you can just change whatever you want about them to fit what you envision them as. Let the kid hit puberty first so they can make the damn decision themselves. That's worse than the parents who put their kids through beauty pageants at a young age.

There's an interesting case study on this topic: David Reimer.

From Wikipedia:
David Peter Reimer (August 22, 1965 – May 4, 2004) was a Canadian man born biologically male but raised female following medical advice and intervention after his penis was accidentally destroyed during a botched circumcision in infancy.[1]

Psychologist John Money oversaw the case and reported the reassignment as successful and as evidence that gender identity is primarily learned. Academic sexologist Milton Diamond later reported that Reimer failed to identify as female since the age of 9 to 11,[2] and transitioned to living as a male at age 15. Well known in medical circles for years anonymously as the "John/Joan" case, Reimer later went public with his story to help discourage similar medical practices. He later committed suicide after suffering years of severe depression, financial instability, and a troubled marriage.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

Quite an interesting topic I think. I would agree with those who have said that culture, gender, and sex are different things, but I think it needs to be a personal choice to acquire or change any aspect of your identity. If someone assigns it to you, you can get situations like this.

Except there are many species of animals where females are the "alphas" quote, unquote and several species where that changes. Some species of animals even change sex. 

And homosexuality is rampant in nature with other species. In nature some species of female also bite off the head of the male and eat it during sex, lol. 

If we go by nature, a lot of religious conservatives would wind up with a stick right up their ass. If you study nature and role of sex and gender is incredibly diverse, even frightening probably to human sensibilities. 

Why do children need to be given a gender at all? Why should a "decision" be made by anybody but the child? No need to "wait until they are in their teens", but they can make their own choice. Let them choose their own clothes, their hairstyle, etc (within reason, of course - there are styles and clothes that are inappropriate for children in general).

Ultimately, there should be "gender neutral" clothes for children until they express a preference.

I disagree with your examples but not your point. Humans are just one species and humans evolved a certain way where each sex fits it's certain role that's suited to them. Of course, people do what they want but that doesn't change what nature intended.