Isn't that what people said about Wii U and Gamecube^^

It depends which demographics they're targeting. If they're going for the same audience again it might as well sell less.

Should be a given imo.

Denial overflow.

Ok then, if we exclude the casual craze of ps2, ps consoles are declining since the first ps.

This isn't a fixed fanbase that grew smaller. People are always flowing from one system to the other, with not every snes/N64/GC buyer getting a previous gen nintendo system. Last gen wii was the absolute winner for gamers and no ammount of denial will change that.

Monologue.

It's pointless to discuss this as long as we don't know what the NX is. Anyway, it seems that Nintendo would have to mess up really bad for the NX to do even worse than the WiiU.

Perhaps but there is a difference between your worst homeconsole selling 90 million and the first installment at 102 million and the drop of Nintendo. After all the difference is only 12.1%. Especially considering the PS4 is outselling the PS3 and the gap keeps on growing. To put it into perspective the constant decline of the Nintendo console fanbase shows that the nearest competitors offer better products really. I wouldn´t call Sony a competitor anymore, since Nintendo doesn´t want to compete with Playstation anymore (because they got their ass kicked in N64 and GC era) .

I doubt the Wii was the real winner for gamers last gen, most people eventually disliked motion controls and after the first 4 years where over the system died pretty quickly. But the 1st party games where great for the Wii though the lack of HD quickly cathed up with Nintendo. It made sure the Wii could never sell more than the PS2 really. The NX has the Wii U as predecessor that also doesn't boe well for Nintendo, while Sony's legacy is way brighter, long cycles, great third party support and making at least one GOTY per gen.

Sony is fairly consistent though

PS1 - 105 mill

PS2 - 150 mill

PS3 - 90 mill (est finish)

PS4 - 100+ mill (on pace)

Honestly the only real big difference with the PS2 is that Sony sold for such a long time in developing countries.

If Sony was

PS1 - 105 mill

PS2 - 75 mill

PS3 - 45 mill

PS4 - 20 mill

There would be a fair amount of discussion about it.

And where is the Wii ?

It would be relevant if Nintendo had managed to hold any of the expanded casual Wii audience. They haven't been able to though. Without those casuals, their console position has been eroding like crazy.

It would be a tragedy if it doesn't. Hopefully Nintendo learned from their mistakes so they can sell at least at N64 levels.