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SvennoJ said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Yes. But that's why it would be important all games support the OG X1 hardware.

If they're gonna do it, maybe its best they do it holiday of 2017. When people are getting a little bored of 8th gen capabilities. That would be 4 years.

I don't see that working out very well. Consider this:
You can't simply add something to the existing xbox one nor replace the gpu, a new box is the only way.
It won't be seen as a new console, thus can also not be priced like a new console, expect a modest gpu.
Providing a box you can upgrade will also limit what can be spend on the gpu.
Making sure it's fully hardware BC and new games support both limits the new shine factor even further.
I doubt all that leads to much better looking games to make the upgrade worth it. Sure they can run at 1080p with better frame rate, yet whether it will be 60fps where the ps4 runs at 30fps, I doubt it. Plus the PS4 will have dropped in price by then and still has those games that can't be played on PC.

The hardcore will buy it. They already buy a new console for a special edition with hardly any upgrades. Yet I doubt most people will bother. It adds more work for developers and potentially cause a split userbase in competitive online games. (Just throw a bunch of smoke grenades to lag those peasant OG X1 users out)

Do you think MS is going to take a big loss on selling the new hardware? Especially with much lower sales expectations. Spending big money to start making money two years in (after paying of R&D etc) isn't going to work anymore with this system. I think they'll be focusing on Windows 10 instead and perhaps let other companies make XBox One alikes. Although we've already seen where that leads with the Steam box.

If there is a XBox One upgrade from MS I expect it to be for multimedia improvements. HDMI 2.0, bigger hdd, no disc drive. A cheap setop box that can play all XBox One games and UWP apps. Maybe some small hw improvements yet don't expect much. Snappier interface, bit more stable framerate, yet otherwise completely identical. I don't think its profitable to put out a premium machine.

Odds are they won't make a new X1 with beefed up specs, but its viable option like the New 3DS. At the very least an improved GPU could make a world of difference. I dunno, maybe stick two GPUs in there. :-p

It could also be handled in a way where early adopters won't feel screwed as I discussed before (all games must support the original hardware).



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The major problem with the strategy is eSRAM. PS4 is in much better shape to do this as games aren't built around taking advantage of eSRAM. A PS4 upgrade is straightforward....

If Xbox does this, what's stopping PS4 to do the same without the eSRAM handicap?



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It's only speculation and wishful thinking. Why don't we wait for anything solid is known about before we start making assumptions.



Nope I doubt it. Everything will continue normal in the future (PC



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Btw, what would you rather buy?

A replacement XBox One that runs slightly better, or a ps4 slim / WiiU / NX giving you access to a whole new library of games next to still being able to play the new xbox one plus games.



For some reason the news of 'upgrading XB1' just reminds me of the Sega Genesis with the 32x and Sega CD.....

...to which I feel is a bad idea. (But I could be wrong)



Reception to the idea here doesnt seem that positive...



UltimateGamer1982 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I hear ya, but I'd prefer Nintendo get out of the home console arena.

Nintendo is great at software but they encourage the competition to be better. Xbox and Playstation are going at it and making this gen interesting. Meanwhile Nintendo is making their usual games and pusing plastic toys. I have a Wii U but its just a box I go to for the latest Mario games and some other random things.

Nintendo would probably benefit from going 3rd party in a great way. Sega has done great as a multiplat developer when they aren't making shit.

I can't see Nintendo leaving hardware, plus they have the most famous line of franchises like Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, etc. 

Whereas Microsoft only has one or two really big ips with halo and gears and those could easily be moved to PC.

So it honestly wouldn't be that big a deal to lose Microsoft consoles. Plus Microsoft knows PC, that's their roots and I think they should embrace it more. Let Sony and Nintendo fight over the console space I say while they focus on the huge PC market. 

Since this goes against MS's plans of having a MS branded piece of plastic in every living room in every home in every country on the whole planet, I don't think it's in their best interests to do it. If anything, they will create an hybrid console/PC/top set box/one in all home console machine that will be relatively affordable and desirable enough to be bought with the same abandon as one would buy a router... 

That's their plan at least... 



Reality check.
1. When launching Xbox 360 Microsoft added additional 256 mb RAM on the suggestion of epic games. They originally planned to release Xbox 360 with 256 mb RAM. It cost them half billion USD. They just can't release a new hardware without any R & D. And it's costly.
2. While developing games developers have stated that porting isn't that cheap. Despite having one standard SKU for Xbox One / PS4 / Wii U developers have expressed how costly it is. How will Xbox One "premium " survive with multi SKU and with its smaller and fragmented user base?
3. Pay $70 for the Xbox One "premium " and $60 for standard version. Lol. Market isn't that easy.
On last thing. Traditional console market have survived this long with standard hardware. This will remain as it is unless users are willing to pay like smartphones. They actually pay. Where? In the PC market where GTX 660 sells 10 million units. But that market is different. Last time I checked Microsofts mission in not clear in this regard.