I just wanted to clear things up and point out that the rumor is old. There are plenty of believable rumors out in the wild. Unfortunately they are all so contradictory it all comes down to it. It's a serious case "I want to believe" for the fans. We won't know for sure until Nintendo unveils the system. Very few of the rumors are likely to be true, if any at all. I would laugh so hard if some of the contradictory rumors turn out to be true with some referring to the console and others to the handheld. That would be a golden twist xD

You don't seem to realize that e6760 is not what's inside WiiU - even guy who started the rumour back in days said that he hasn't heard that from anyone, it was just his speculation on what might be inside, and that was way before laucnh. He later debunked that guy Dominiquez who wrote all those fairy tales based on e6760 (I bet that's some rabid WiiU appologist like Zero999 in disguise).

So hold up guys. Some folks are saying that a console with phone integration = a smart console.

Okay.

You guys do realize that any bluetooth device with a screen has a potential to be a "smart x". My fit bit gives me caller ID on its screen when i get s phone call, therefore it is a "smart fitness tracker" whereas the version without the screen is just a "fitness tracker", and my car's dashboard head unit that displays incoming calls, allows me to make outgoing calls with voice command, and reads music playlists and videos from my phone's storage means it's a "smart GPS/stereo/head unit".

This is literally something Sony or Microsoft could easily, easily do with a firmware update. If they felt their users could benefit from it, that is.

And if you're going to argue that it's because it's running an "android-like" OS, well hello Ouya, the world's first smart console.

I can't believe people are still discussing the WiiU specs as we are talking about the possibilities of their next system... kind of crazy!

It is, isn't it? Then again, some of newer folks, who apparently have no idea how much this exact kind of "WiiU's magical GPU" bollocks was at one time being preached around here by certain notorious user Zero999, with every other thread derailed until he got himself permabanned, keep on going with same sort of crap.

I think it depends on how it will be used.
Something smooth might do the trick.

If Nintendo did the architecture thing it would be absolutely great.

Third parties aren't in a position to freeze out any console manufacturer anymore. If they can port to something with little effort they will.

No. I'm talking about it from an engineering/manufacturing stand point. It is not practical.

Indeed.
But who knows what goes behind closed doors. :P Just throwing some theories around, that's all. Or "hopes".
But even with that said, even if Nintendo goes for Zen+Polaris... They could still have hardware that is technically slower than the Xbox One.

You are going to need definitive evidence to say the WiiU has 480Gflops, most outlet's think it's far less than that.

Just. Look. At. The. Games. There is a clear generational difference between WiiU titles and the Xbox One, one that leads it to a performance gap greater than 2.5x that you you imply. - That's all the proof right there. The games.


Polaris can use HBM, GDDR5, GDDR5X and the Memory controller will likely have DDR4 (Maybe DDR3?) support also for die-harvested parts that will filter down into lower-end segments and mobile.

Tonga would also be a good choice, Colour Compression would help make up some performance ground with the other consoles even if it has less resources than the Xbox One. - Excavator would be an extreme dissapointment, a dissapointment that would be on par as being served a big fat steak that was actually Tofu.
AMD's current CPU's are horrible.

Polaris and Zen had working silicon last year, so it's not entirely impossible to imagine Nintendo taking advantage of that, whether it happens though is something that only time will tell.

We are looking towards history for an idea of the future.

Very true.

But hey, at least it would be small and use very, very little power, just what Nintendo likes .