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RolStoppable said:
bumbalu1990 said:
Stop making threads roll. Quit this site. Please. Give us a break.

Sorry, but I enjoy your suffering too much.

suffering? Haha. You are funny. Almost 9 years on this site. And still making uninspirational threads. You're boring.

 

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that is not true i find my parents boring but i dont ignore them. Where do you get that from? But on topic. You are wrong.



RolStoppable said:
SWORDF1SH said:

Actually no Rol, you were very vague in your OP. Mjk actually explained it more which you failed to do. Do you really have to rely on other people to do that for you?

I still think your whole thread is complete bull. I'm sorry it just feels like you had a thought and instead of thinking it through you put it in a thread. If you want to explain your OP you had multiple chances to do it but failed. So naturally I'm going to call out your dud defence posts. You had your chances but instead somebody else had to do it for you. 

Mjk just seemed more knowledgeable than you and we went on to discuss it further which we could of done instead of saying stuff like 'but kowenicki didn't disagree so FACT CONFIRMED'. It's like you were trying to summon kowenicki to dig you out.

You probably do know more and didn't show it but that's your failings. And maybe I don't know much about this subject but you're the one claiming that they do. If you can't explain your reasons and fold when questioned, expect to be pulled apart. If something doesn't make sense to me I will question it. Accept it and move on.

As for the PS3 Blu Ray comment,  that makes sense. We are getting somewhere. 

I wasn't vague, I was concise. I could have added more detail to the original post (like how Microsoft partnered with Sega to get Windows CE on the Dreamcast, but then Sega faltered and Microsoft had to create their own console), but it's long as it is and it's counterproductive to discussions when you push too much text on the community. Even at its current length, a lot of people aren't going to read the original post in its entirety and it shows in the responses.

You think my thread is complete bull, but at the same time you agree with mjk45's posts. The issue here isn't the content of posts, it's who posts it. You don't like me, so you got it in your head that you have to disagree with me no matter what. That's how the same key points can be wrong and right for you at the same time. Likewise, you demanded a link from me but took the word from someone else as good enough. That's not a consistent method of asking for proof.

Lastly, I haven't dug myself a hole and I am not being pulled apart. In case you haven't noticed, everyone else who has chimed in on the subject of Microsoft's reasons for creating the Xbox has supported the reasoning of my original post. It's not that I stated my opinions as facts, I stated facts for what they are.

Lol let's play 'you hate me' card. You are still missing the point and your turning this into something else. I actually have more confidence in reason 1 but not because of you. You had 2 chances to reply to me but you just replied with absolutely nothing.

I asked for link to get the an understanding the context of why they believed consoles would be a threat. Talking to mjk put more context on it. You could of done the same. To tell the truth a simple reply to my first comment would of prevented where we're at. All I wanted is to understand your opinion and as it's your opinion, talking about it is the whole point of a forum.

If you want to sulk over me calling your thread tripe instead of talking about, fine, it only generates the illusion that you do not know what the hell you're talking about.

Anyway thanks to mjk and ruler for doing rols work. Now I usually have a 3 strike rule but you've had more than enough strikes so excuse if I don't reply to next post.



CGI-Quality said:
bumbalu1990 said:

that is not true i find my parents boring but i dont ignore them. Where do you get that from? But on topic. You are wrong.

Your view of the TC (topic creator) is not something to discuss in here. If you have an issue with a thread or poster, you can report said things. Otherwise, you're moving on!

ok. Im moving on.



Xbox one is still selling pretty well. Does Apple need to leave the smart phone because it's selling less than Android or eave mac industry because pc outsells them? Hell no. They make too much money off of xbox recently and expanding it to PC will only bring them more money. More money equals more games and more investments.



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NobleTeam360 said:
Abandon ship fellow Xbox fans, don't you see the writing on the wall? It's all over, sell your Xbox One and go buy a gaming PC and PS4.

I would not sell the X1; rather I would buy a PS4 so that they will realize it is a better console :D



”Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”

Harriet Tubman.

xbox brand isn't going anywhere.
xbox hardware will return for another generation, but I do think that they're planning something radical with the next iteration.
microsoft has boatloads of cash and satya nadella, along with other high-profile execs/employees at ms, have repeatedly stated that they consider xbox to be an integral part of microsoft now and for the future.
Just because the xbox one isn't performing as well as the ps4 doesn't mean that microsoft considers it a failure.
Console generations have all had various leaders and losers with varying distributions of marketshare for each major player per generation. If the xbox 360/wii/ps4 showed anything, it's that things can change with each generation of consoles.  The Xbox brand is still hugely popular in certain territories.  If you think microsoft is willing to just let that go, to let go of that audience who is so central to microsoft's aspirationsfor the living room, you'd be a fool to think so.  If they didn't abandon it during OG Xbox's generation or when they incurred heavy, heavy losses with the Xbox 360 RRoD, what's going to make them jump ship right now??    

 

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padib said:
roborad said:

xbox brand isn't going anywhere.
xbox hardware will return for another generation, but I do think that they're planning something radical with the next iteration.
microsoft has boatloads of cash and satya nadella, along with other high-profile execs/employees at ms, have repeatedly stated that they consider xbox to be an integral part of microsoft now and for the future.
Just because the xbox one isn't performing as well as the ps4 doesn't mean that microsoft considers it a failure.
Console generations have all had various leaders and losers with varying distributions of marketshare for each major player per generation. If the xbox 360/wii/ps4 showed anything, it's that things can change with each generation of consoles.  The Xbox brand is still hugely popular in certain territories.  If you think microsoft is willing to just let that go, to let go of that audience who is so central to microsoft's aspirationsfor the living room, you'd be a fool to think so.  If they didn't abandon it during OG Xbox's generation or when they incurred heavy, heavy losses with the Xbox 360 RRoD, what's going to make them jump ship right now??    

 

I rarely visit this website anymore due to a number of reasons, but I had to comment on this.  

Good post.

I find people often forget this, especially bolded.

I miss posts like this on vgchartz.

Very good post indeed. The Xbox brand is huge and valuable. Like me and mjk discussed in a previous post, no doubt the Xbox brand will change over time, MS will just mold it into what they want. I think without it, it will be very hard to make people pay for live.



padib said:
roborad said:

xbox brand isn't going anywhere.
xbox hardware will return for another generation, but I do think that they're planning something radical with the next iteration.
microsoft has boatloads of cash and satya nadella, along with other high-profile execs/employees at ms, have repeatedly stated that they consider xbox to be an integral part of microsoft now and for the future.
Just because the xbox one isn't performing as well as the ps4 doesn't mean that microsoft considers it a failure.
Console generations have all had various leaders and losers with varying distributions of marketshare for each major player per generation. If the xbox 360/wii/ps4 showed anything, it's that things can change with each generation of consoles.  The Xbox brand is still hugely popular in certain territories.  If you think microsoft is willing to just let that go, to let go of that audience who is so central to microsoft's aspirationsfor the living room, you'd be a fool to think so.  If they didn't abandon it during OG Xbox's generation or when they incurred heavy, heavy losses with the Xbox 360 RRoD, what's going to make them jump ship right now??    

 

I rarely visit this website anymore due to a number of reasons, but I had to comment on this.  

Good post.

I find people often forget this, especially bolded.

I miss posts like this on vgchartz.

Except not really, because the Xbox One is fighting a desperate fight in its best territories and losing. Elsewhere is a non-factor. The last time this was an issue was during the first Xbox, but exclusives kept it afloat. 

 

But without those...



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Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
Making basically all of their games playable through PC is a move towards saying "Xbox isn't gone, we're just making it part of PC now!" as a means to disguise giving up on consoles.

Actually no it does not.  What it means is that MS is a business that have multiple ecosystems.  They have published their games on PC before and if anything this is just a recommitment to the same strategy they did when they started within the industry.  MS has always wanted and still have a hardware device under the TV and they still want their PC endeavors to continue to push adoption of their OS and services. 

If anything, MS publishing games under the PC means that they are recommitted to trying to established their games publishing arm on Windows 10 and future OS's.  They want customers to have a reason to purchase from the MS store also get those customers to use their XBL services on their Primary platform.  PC and Console gamers really are not the same when you talk about the total install base. 

 

It really just makes sense for MS to try to leverage their game division to publish for both of their ecosystems to maximize profits and increase adoption of their services across all of their platforms.  This in no way means they will suddenly abandon the Console market if anything, they are probably even more committed because they still need a piece of hardware underneath the TV.  The thing is, they will have probably multiple different ways to access their games and services by providing something like a Steambox that streams from your PC or the internet using Azure as their back end.  They will also have another console for their next generation because they want that market as well.