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potato_hamster said:
kitler53 said:
potato_hamster said:
kitler53 said:

consider activision releasing the next CoD on the NX
1. activision will not put the game on NX console if they can't charge $60
2. activision will not put the game on NX console if nintendo requires to also run on NX handheld with no monetary incentive to make two versions of the game for the price of one.

so this either means:
1. nintendo follows sony's lead on only make cross-buy a thing when it makes sense for the title and not a requirement the publisher must adhere to.
2. nintendo follows nintendo's lead and has no 3rd party support.

or 3. Nintendo follows Nintendo's lead and the NX is actually two seperate platforms where publishers can develop for whatever platform the like knowing the cost of supporting the second platform is lower than it was between the Wii U and 3DS, but if they do choose to do so, can publish it for that seperate platform for a seperate price and make more money.



that's option 1.

vita has some exclusive games.

ps3/ps4 has some exclusive games.

vita and ps3/4 have some straight ports that are cross buy

vita and ps3/4 have some high/low graphics ports custom to each system that are seperate purchases.

 

geez,. that sounds a lot like NX huh?



You're right that I did misunderstand your first point.

You and I are on the same page. This is what I believe Nintendo will do. But I don't think they're going to take premier titles like Zelda, and make them cross-buy or give away the game on one platform for free.



How about premium titles at a discount for those that want both?



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It will probably be at nintendo's suggestion to third party developers and their own discretion.

They will have value games like captain toad and kirby (or mario golf on 3ds) that will come out cheaper, but i think it will be a solid price for both, which is ok only if they still have cheaper games as well.

If they throw it all out and you don't get the really good rpg's you got on the 3ds with lesser graphics at a cheaper price that will suck.



spemanig said:
potato_hamster said:

It describes an added challenge, a difficult challenge that almost no developer, much less a third party is goinng to be willing to do for free. Also, he wasn't  necessarily referring to the NX when he said that. It was more of a "wouldn't it be nice if"...  and if fact right after that the interviewer gave an specific example of Super Mario Bros. 3 on the Virtual Console which required seperate purchases to play it on both 3DS and Wii U, and Miyamoto kinda shurgged it off and said he'd think about doing it seperately next time.

So I mean, it's kinda disingenous to intentionally take the paragraph out of context, when you and I both know that he wasn't specifically referring to the NX when he said this, and this could quite easily have absolutely nothing to do with the NX.

For those who would like to read the interview themselves:

http://kotaku.com/miyamoto-can-imagine-nintendo-making-hybrid-console-han-1594989023



Except they already to it successfully and lucratively on mobile. They've overcome that challenge. That's why they unified developement studios. That's why the NX is being designed from its genesis to make it easy for developers to make one game on both.

He was very clearly referencing the NX. Let's not start that and pretend that a paragrah that directly references everything we've learned since about the NX plarform isn't actually about the NX platform. Yeah. He must be referencing some other unified platform. Combining development studios must have actually been for extending the 3DS's life another 3 years. "Both devices" must actually be a reference to the Wii U and 3DS. I must be crazy.

I think Miyamoto was speaking of the direction he wants to lead Nintento in. He wasn't referring to the Wii U and the 3DS, nor was he referring to the NX. He was referring to a hypothetical development platform that may or may not exist some day. Whether or not the NX is that hypothetical platform remains to be seen, but it's far more likely that the NX is a step in that direction, but not the end goal of that quote.

If they overcome that challenge, Nintendo went from years behind Sony and Microsoft in terms of operating systems, infrastructure, and development tools (both hardware and software tools), to years ahead from one console to the next. Based on my experience working directly with Nintendo I have absolutely zero confidence that they were able to create a development enviroment that allows developers to quite literally compile one game and it work on multiple hardware specifications. It doesn't seem remotely practical for anyone to pull off at this day and age, much less Nintendo.
I do not believe this is what they have done at all. I think they've made two seperate consoles, with similar specs, similar development tools, and similar OSs and are hoping that's enough to encourage third parties to develop on both system. It will not be easy to port between one platform and the next, but it will be easier. Those are two completely different things.






should be mostly $49 and under. If big 3rd party games are there, the standard $59 would still apply.



potato_hamster said:
kitler53 said:
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that's option 1.

vita has some exclusive games.

ps3/ps4 has some exclusive games.

vita and ps3/4 have some straight ports that are cross buy

vita and ps3/4 have some high/low graphics ports custom to each system that are seperate purchases.

 

geez,. that sounds a lot like NX huh?



You're right that I did misunderstand your first point.

You and I are on the same page. This is what I believe Nintendo will do. But I don't think they're going to take premier titles like Zelda, and make them cross-buy or give away the game on one platform for free.



 

okay, then yes we do indeed seem to be on the same page.  i just wonder if nintendo can be more successful here than sony was.  on paper this cross-buy stuff sounds like a customer dream come true.  at the very least i love the fact that i can decide which platform i want to play a game like super meat boy or broken age because i have them for both vita and ps4 without having to buy it twice.  for me super meat boy just feels right on a handheld while i'd prefer the big screen for broken age.

..but the big critisism for vita is most of its library is also ps3/4 so why bother having both devices.  i wonder how nintendo's overall fortunes are impacted if a lot of nintendo fans decide owning both platforms isn't needed anymore and then just buy one or the other.



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kitler53 said:
potato_hamster said:
kitler53 said:
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that's option 1.

vita has some exclusive games.

ps3/ps4 has some exclusive games.

vita and ps3/4 have some straight ports that are cross buy

vita and ps3/4 have some high/low graphics ports custom to each system that are seperate purchases.

 

geez,. that sounds a lot like NX huh?



You're right that I did misunderstand your first point.

You and I are on the same page. This is what I believe Nintendo will do. But I don't think they're going to take premier titles like Zelda, and make them cross-buy or give away the game on one platform for free.



 

okay, then yes we do indeed seem to be on the same page.  i just wonder if nintendo can be more successful here than sony was.  on paper this cross-buy stuff sounds like a customer dream come true.  at the very least i love the fact that i can decide which platform i want to play a game like super meat boy or broken age because i have them for both vita and ps4 without having to buy it twice.  for me super meat boy just feels right on a handheld while i'd prefer the big screen for broken age.

..but the big critisism for vita is most of its library is also ps3/4 so why bother having both devices.  i wonder how nintendo's overall fortunes are impacted if a lot of nintendo fans decide owning both platforms isn't needed anymore and then just buy one or the other.

I think it's also worth nothing that Sony, for the most part, has completely abandoned the cross-buy strategy for anything other than indies and other smaller games. I don't think it payed off too well for them.





American Price wise, I would say it would be $50-$60..



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WoodenPints said:
teigaga said:

Precisely 
The RRP for Yoshi's Yarn and Mario PArty 10 is $49.99, MArio Maker is $59.99 and Captain Toad and Kirby are $39.99.

I Imagine premium handheld games like Pokemon will see a hike in price, whereas bite sized console games like Captain Toad will fall in price.

You're probably right with this but even a jump from $39.99 - $59.99 for people who are big handheld fans wouldn't go down to well with them.

 

 

If the next Pokemon offers Wii U level graphics, I think people will quickly forget the price hike ;) 

 



teigaga said:
WoodenPints said:
teigaga said:

Precisely 
The RRP for Yoshi's Yarn and Mario PArty 10 is $49.99, MArio Maker is $59.99 and Captain Toad and Kirby are $39.99.

I Imagine premium handheld games like Pokemon will see a hike in price, whereas bite sized console games like Captain Toad will fall in price.

You're probably right with this but even a jump from $39.99 - $59.99 for people who are big handheld fans wouldn't go down to well with them.

 

 

If the next Pokemon offers Wii U level graphics, I think people will quickly forget the price hike ;) 

 

 

Very doubtful, Pokémon looks like that even with Wii U level hardware. Pokemon never makes strong use of the hardware it's on, look at Pokemon X/Y or OR/AS compared to some of the best looking 3DS games.



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Miyamotoo said:
elektranine said:
Knowing Nintendo the games will be region locked still and you will be required to purchase both 'versions'. So $100 for both versions. Maybe less for cheaper games. Nintendo will claim that the systems are unified but in reality they will probably be two separate systems marketed under the same name.

$100 for a game!? Of Course that will not happen, probably $60 for both versions.



 


They tried it in Europe with the N64 :p



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