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I keep hearing fro people Bluetooth would be bad in terms of sound quality. Well, I myself use 400+ € headphones, my music player is an iPhone and I'm using Bluetooth. Bluetooth can mean bad quality, but only if you're using old standards. Todays Bluetooth is better than your 3,5mm analog audio port. There's this little fact that Bluetooth is digital while the 3,5mm jack is still analog. It is very outdated tech to be precise. When the battery on my headphones die, sure, I'll use a cable. But not 3,5mm, hell no. I'll use a lightning cable. Again, because it's digital. It does not only sound better, it also uses my headphone amp in a much better way.

I can see why people are turned off from removing the 3,5mm headphone jack. They are pissed because their existing headphones won't work anymore and they don't want to buy new ones. I also know that most people are just fine with the sound of cheap analog headphones and not everyone goes nuts about it like me. But still, the tech is outdated and someone has to make the first step into the future. Like always, it's Apple. They did things like this before, they remove stuff, people get angry about it, but it's forgotten pretty quickly. Remember how Apple removed Flash from all their devices? People were pissed! Turned out they did the right thing as Flash sucks balls.

Anyway, I'm sure there will be a lightning adapter for 3,5mm headphones.

About thin devices: Numbers don't lie, it's obviously what the market wants.



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barneystinson69 said:
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Sound quality is also shit on bluetooth. #Wiredmasterrace

Try Bluetooth 4.2. With 800 kb/s you can stream FLAC or ALAC without any loss whatsoever. 





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barneystinson69 said:
vivster said:
iLikeEggs said:
I only have an iphone because all of my friends do, but if they ever remove the headphone jack, then I will be switching to a different brand. My phone is my portable music player. I need the jack. Such a stupid decision, imo.

Please join the bluetooth masterrace. No stupid cables ftw.

 

So how exactly do I use earbuds? 

I use proper headphones. I can recommend the Sony MDR1RBT but there are a couple more really good ones. There are also some bluetooth earbuds but I haven't tried them yet.



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You will be easily getting nice Lightning connector headphones. Which you then can use on your great Apple devices.
That Macbook 'keyboard' is another story. I'd probably prefer typing on a surface pro typecover...

 

P.S.: Until now decent bluetooth headphones are way more expensive than they're wired versions and always sound worse, though not neccessarily bad.



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Snoopy said:
Apple hate yay. Hate on more American companies.

Which outsources its labor to China. Who gives a f%#k lol?





OdinHades said:
I keep hearing fro people Bluetooth would be bad in terms of sound quality. Well, I myself use 400+ € headphones, my music player is an iPhone and I'm using Bluetooth. Bluetooth can mean bad quality, but only if you're using old standards. Todays Bluetooth is better than your 3,5mm analog audio port. There's this little fact that Bluetooth is digital while the 3,5mm jack is still analog. It is very outdated tech to be precise. When the battery on my headphones die, sure, I'll use a cable. But not 3,5mm, hell no. I'll use a lightning cable...

Stopped reading at lightning cable.

I really can't stand unnecessary propreitary shit...



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binary solo said:
hershel_layton said:

 

 

 

What's that? I don't recognise that as any product currently on the market, and AFAIK Apple isn't due for a new phone design until iPhone 7 towards the end of the year.

Didn't Jobs himself set the tone for striving for thinness and perceptions of thinness in Apple's portable product designs?

The first thing that should be said is that Apple never confirmed they're getting rid of the jack. That's a rumor that may or may not be true.

The second this is yes, Steve Jobs did set that tone and had he been at Apple today, he would have made the iPhone 6s even thinner. This trend he set actually started with the original Macintosh. He insisted on it being much smaller than other computers at the time and the engineers had to work to make such a computer possible. At NeXT, he insisted on making his computer a cube with perfect 90 degree angles, whereas most computers at the time had a pizzabox design. This required more enginerring magic and it was frustrating for the manufactuers to pull this off since they had to figure out how to remove something with perfect 90 angles from a mold. During his secodn run at Apple, when flatscreens became financially viable, he immediately made the switch. When the designers and engineers were designing iPod models, he would take the prototype and drop it in soem water. If he saw bubbles, he would tell them there's still room, make it thinner. The Macbook Air was also something he was proud of.

That was something Steve believed. Thinner was better. Fewer buttons were better. Simplicity was the key. Having something that was thick and littered with buttons was distracting and not Zen-like.

 





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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
OdinHades said:
I keep hearing fro people Bluetooth would be bad in terms of sound quality. Well, I myself use 400+ € headphones, my music player is an iPhone and I'm using Bluetooth. Bluetooth can mean bad quality, but only if you're using old standards. Todays Bluetooth is better than your 3,5mm analog audio port. There's this little fact that Bluetooth is digital while the 3,5mm jack is still analog. It is very outdated tech to be precise. When the battery on my headphones die, sure, I'll use a cable. But not 3,5mm, hell no. I'll use a lightning cable...

Stopped reading at lightning cable.

I really can't stand unnecessary propreitary shit...


You can replace Lightning with USB if you wish. But since I am an iPhone user, I use lightning.



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There is practical thin and there is "how much battery do we need before people will revolt against this BS" thin.