UncleScrooge said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
UncleScrooge said:
Other phones and notebooks also get thinner. Why do we have this discussion every single year? When the iPhone 5 released people said the same thing. Today, Android phones are thinner than the iPhone 5 and nobody complains. I just don't get it. You can bet your house the next wave of high end Android smartphones will be thinner than the iPhone 6. And if Apple drops the headphone jack they'll bundle the iPhone with bluetooth earbuds. (btw, if they do that it would also help to make the next iPhone waterproof).

The Macbook is definitely overkill but that's just one product. There's still Macbook Air and Macbook Pro. You can't stay still in this day and age. Other manufacturers do the same thing.

Thinner for the sake of pure thinnest especially at the cost of other practical concerns rather than utility is insanity and a step backwards.

I agree. But that's not what Apple does. Apple produces high end smartphones. They need to have one of the thinnest, fastest, etc. phones to keep their customers. 



Its gotten to the point were its unconfortable to hold. The 4s really felt perfect, and it was the last phone Steve Jobs was alive to see. The 6s has poor battery life, and is far les powerful than it otherwise could have been.





Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

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vivster said:
iLikeEggs said:
vivster said:
iLikeEggs said:
I only have an iphone because all of my friends do, but if they ever remove the headphone jack, then I will be switching to a different brand. My phone is my portable music player. I need the jack. Such a stupid decision, imo.

Please join the bluetooth masterrace. No stupid cables ftw.

My car only has an auxillary cable, no bluetooth capabilities. THis past summer, I drove from the east coast to the west coast (USA). If my phone did not have the headphone jack, I would not have had a 40 hour steady stream of tunes.  I need music while driving, thus I need the jack. 

Looks like you need a new car.

 

or just a new sound system. You can buy a new sound system with all of those capabilities for pretty cheap. Follow some youtube vids for install. 



psn- tokila

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UncleScrooge said:
Other phones and notebooks also get thinner. Why do we have this discussion every single year? When the iPhone 5 released people said the same thing. Today, Android phones are thinner than the iPhone 5 and nobody complains. I just don't get it. You can bet your house the next wave of high end Android smartphones will be thinner than the iPhone 6. And if Apple drops the headphone jack they'll bundle the iPhone with bluetooth earbuds. (btw, if they do that it would also help to make the next iPhone waterproof).

The Macbook is definitely overkill but that's just one product. There's still Macbook Air and Macbook Pro. You can't stay still in this day and age. Other manufacturers do the same thing.

I complain. My M4 isn't very confortable to hold, to wide and thin. Preffer thicker with more baterry life and keep more buttons and I/O to have flexibility

UncleScrooge said:
hershel_layton said:

Samsung's A8 phone is thinner than the iphone, but is has a 3,480 mAh battery. Its specs may not be as good, but how is that possible? 

I don't know. All I know is that my iPhone 6 Plus lasts me 3 days on a single charge, 4 days if I activate battery save mode. That's perfectly fine to me. You can't just look at battery size, designing a smartphone means balancing different features in a way consumers appreciate it. Apparently Apple hits the nail on the head with its products. 

You must be a magician, liar or very light user. Because I haven't found a smartphone that survives 12h of very heavy usage.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

vivster said:
iLikeEggs said:
vivster said:
iLikeEggs said:
I only have an iphone because all of my friends do, but if they ever remove the headphone jack, then I will be switching to a different brand. My phone is my portable music player. I need the jack. Such a stupid decision, imo.

Please join the bluetooth masterrace. No stupid cables ftw.

My car only has an auxillary cable, no bluetooth capabilities. THis past summer, I drove from the east coast to the west coast (USA). If my phone did not have the headphone jack, I would not have had a 40 hour steady stream of tunes.  I need music while driving, thus I need the jack. 

Looks like you need a new car.

 


Haha wow. I'm willing to bet Apple can do no wrong in your eyes.



DonFerrari said:
UncleScrooge said:
Other phones and notebooks also get thinner. Why do we have this discussion every single year? When the iPhone 5 released people said the same thing. Today, Android phones are thinner than the iPhone 5 and nobody complains. I just don't get it. You can bet your house the next wave of high end Android smartphones will be thinner than the iPhone 6. And if Apple drops the headphone jack they'll bundle the iPhone with bluetooth earbuds. (btw, if they do that it would also help to make the next iPhone waterproof).

The Macbook is definitely overkill but that's just one product. There's still Macbook Air and Macbook Pro. You can't stay still in this day and age. Other manufacturers do the same thing.

I complain. My M4 isn't very confortable to hold, to wide and thin. Preffer thicker with more baterry life and keep more buttons and I/O to have flexibility

UncleScrooge said:
hershel_layton said:

Samsung's A8 phone is thinner than the iphone, but is has a 3,480 mAh battery. Its specs may not be as good, but how is that possible? 

I don't know. All I know is that my iPhone 6 Plus lasts me 3 days on a single charge, 4 days if I activate battery save mode. That's perfectly fine to me. You can't just look at battery size, designing a smartphone means balancing different features in a way consumers appreciate it. Apparently Apple hits the nail on the head with its products. 

You must be a magician, liar or very light user. Because I haven't found a smartphone that survives 12h of very heavy usage.

 

Do you want me to post a screenshot? I'm a light user, yes. Stop being so defensive. 

As for the first part of your post: In that case everything is fine in my eyes! I respect your opinion and I see where you are coming from. What I don't like is when people say *Apple* makes phones that are too thin. Complaining about phones being too thin in general is perfectly fine. 



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UncleScrooge said:
DonFerrari said:
UncleScrooge said:
Other phones and notebooks also get thinner. Why do we have this discussion every single year? When the iPhone 5 released people said the same thing. Today, Android phones are thinner than the iPhone 5 and nobody complains. I just don't get it. You can bet your house the next wave of high end Android smartphones will be thinner than the iPhone 6. And if Apple drops the headphone jack they'll bundle the iPhone with bluetooth earbuds. (btw, if they do that it would also help to make the next iPhone waterproof).

The Macbook is definitely overkill but that's just one product. There's still Macbook Air and Macbook Pro. You can't stay still in this day and age. Other manufacturers do the same thing.

I complain. My M4 isn't very confortable to hold, to wide and thin. Preffer thicker with more baterry life and keep more buttons and I/O to have flexibility

UncleScrooge said:
hershel_layton said:

Samsung's A8 phone is thinner than the iphone, but is has a 3,480 mAh battery. Its specs may not be as good, but how is that possible? 

I don't know. All I know is that my iPhone 6 Plus lasts me 3 days on a single charge, 4 days if I activate battery save mode. That's perfectly fine to me. You can't just look at battery size, designing a smartphone means balancing different features in a way consumers appreciate it. Apparently Apple hits the nail on the head with its products. 

You must be a magician, liar or very light user. Because I haven't found a smartphone that survives 12h of very heavy usage.

Do you want me to post a screenshot? I'm a light user, yes. Stop being so defensive. 

As for the first part of your post: In that case everything is fine in my eyes! I respect your opinion and I see where you are coming from. What I don't like is when people say *Apple* makes phones that are too thin. Complaining about phones being too thin in general is perfectly fine. 

No need for a screenshot (I don't think Iphone have worse battery life than other manufacturers) I just found it strange to have the battery being ok for up to 4 days (I know my phone say standby it can work for almost a month), because the only time my phone get close to this is when I absolutely don't touch it and perhaps even cut wi-fi and data so whatsapp and facebook don't drain it.

I'm not to fond of Apple but just because for me they charge to much for what I need. But I couldn't care less if they made the phone 1mm thin because if their market want it then it's their business. My 5S was just a little too thin (like 2mm more would be very good), but it wasn't too wide so it fitted very well in my hand, but the ArcS from Sony Xperia were perfect and it was almost twice as thick as 5S (but I think battery life was worse).

I would preffer that Apple keep the 3.5mm jack even if they manage to make it thinner. Or perhaps shrink the connector and if people want wire they use adaptors or we will also see smaller jacks from manufacturers, but getting a port out isn't good on my opinion. But I agree that the market that buy iPhone and the others that follow the trend will copy as soon as it's show it sold well and customer didn't bother much.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

I'm a light iPhone user, and like UncleScrooge, i get 2-3 days out of my iPhone. I mainly use it to check the weather and to send iMessages. Almost everybody that i work with and know outside of work, has an iPhone, so it makes sense for me to own one, with the free iMessages.



UncleScrooge said:
DonFerrari said:
 

 

Do you want me to post a screenshot? I'm a light user, yes. Stop being so defensive. 

As for the first part of your post: In that case everything is fine in my eyes! I respect your opinion and I see where you are coming from. What I don't like is when people say *Apple* makes phones that are too thin. Complaining about phones being too thin in general is perfectly fine. 

you would have to be a extremely light user for it to last that long. My sister started turning her phone off while at work in meetings or when she was unable to take a call otherwise her 6+ wasn't making it to the end of her working day and her phone is a key part of her work. She now carries an extra lithium power pack around which makes her regularly stream expletives at apple for making a piece of junk. By saving a few mm they have sacrifised a lot of usability, this isn't just an apple problem either.





nanarchy said:
UncleScrooge said:
DonFerrari said:
 

 

 

you would have to be a extremely light user for it to last that long. My sister started turning her phone off while at work in meetings or when she was unable to take a call otherwise her 6+ wasn't making it to the end of her working day and her phone is a key part of her work. She now carries an extra lithium power pack around which makes her regularly stream expletives at apple for making a piece of junk. By saving a few mm they have sacrifised a lot of usability, this isn't just an apple problem either.



 

Not sure what you guys do with your phones :P My 6 Plus usually reports 10 hours of usage and 80-100 hours of standby when I plug it in (yeah, I'm a data whore. I look it up every single time). Can't comment on using the phone at work, maybe the apps she uses drain the battery quickly? 



DonFerrari said:
UncleScrooge said:
hershel_layton said:

Samsung's A8 phone is thinner than the iphone, but is has a 3,480 mAh battery. Its specs may not be as good, but how is that possible? 

I don't know. All I know is that my iPhone 6 Plus lasts me 3 days on a single charge, 4 days if I activate battery save mode. That's perfectly fine to me. You can't just look at battery size, designing a smartphone means balancing different features in a way consumers appreciate it. Apparently Apple hits the nail on the head with its products. 

You must be a magician, liar or very light user. Because I haven't found a smartphone that survives 12h of very heavy usage.

Where did he write, that the phone is under heavy usage? The iPhone plus models don't have the best battery life, but seems to be okay (and better than the battery life of the smaller iPhones): http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3

It's also not that hard to get big batteries in these phablets, if they are thin... the other 2 dimensions can make up for it.

It's a lot harder to find a powerful small phone (<5'') with great battery life. Besides Sony's Z-compact series, nothing comes to mind.