DonFerrari on 14 January 2016
Nem said:
This is a distasteful generalization. This is flat out a biased lie. Gets herself drunk with friends... things get handsy... oh poor girl... how did she get herself in this situation? Can't she drink herself into a stupor, probably behave sexually and teasing and then get touched by other drunk people?Is she the only one allowed to misbehave/make a mistake? WTF is this? Are you serious? Beeing called a "slut" "bitch" and so on? Probably more likely to happen by her female friends than men. Men will only do that if they actually behave that way. And honestly this is so unrealistic and complete opposite. My experience has been that women are way bossier, abusive and more opressive than men. And then play this victim game to get their way. Rape? If its true its deplorable indeed, but this woman that portrays herself as a drunken stupor keeps acting like a drunken stupor... perhaps she should behave in a matter that doesnt demean herself so no one would get funny ideas? Maybe watch who she hangs out with? Marital disagreements are normal aswell. Hitting isn't though. If he hits you, you should make clear you will leave him. But its not like this doesn't happen the other way around though. More common is the case of abusive wives who won't let their husbands hang out with their friends or have their own activities. Distasteful, disgusting. I will never give them the preferencial treatment they want. They are not victims. I will treat them as normal human beeings. This goes for all minorities, wich isnt even the case of women, though they love to behave like they are. Thankfully, not all behave in this way.
The person portrayed in this video is far from a victim, except for the rape claim, that is inexcusable, even if she could just watch her company better. The husband and marital problem things, they are more complex than that, and those things don't happen without a reason. There are no innocent sides. If it is indeed the case, dump him. Easy. Just cause on guy is abusive doesnt mean they all are. Oh... and learn to choose better. Seems to be the classic case of not knowing who to hang out with. Daddy gave you a brain. Use it.
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I agree with you 100%... she certainly is well aware of the risks, statistics and whatnot to make this "honest mistake"
And Although feminists preach women are the victm and at the same time stronger and better than men (can't make sense out of it) they forget to look at all the cases women have acted very bad and caused the man to go crazy... it's always man fault.
Wyrdness said:
DonFerrari said:
Yep, what the lawyer would do I can imagine... but my question is how far back can the judge accept it. But yes I see all this as mostly tampering her chances on the court, but I also think it would be hard to make a case against her for false accusatiom. So if her intentios are policital she will still use the case on twitter to promote herself.
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It comes down to who the judge is as the's no real rule set in stone, if it's a genuine case any use of it to promote herself could go against her, rape cases are already hard to prove for both sides but if no trial happens and she continues to use it to promote herself she could find herself being sued by the accused as it can be seen as something similar to severe slander.
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I see, even if she suppress his name and face?
bdbdbd said:
teigaga said:
only777 said:
Oh of course rape is a very real and awful thing. But I think people like this ruin it for the many people who are real victims. No sane person could argue that getting naked and taking a shower with someone isn't giving someone an open invitation for sex.
Doing that then claiming rape is bollocks, and just only makes it harder for the real people who are abused to be taken seriously.
Also to irresponsibility of travelling to South Africa to promote an anti rape campaign, and then not report her own incident to the police. I mean come on.
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At any point, any individual has the freedom to remove consent (if they've even given it). Being naked is not consent to sex. You can be flirtatious as fuck and give out whatever signals you want, and people may understandably respond with sexual advances, but you have the freedom to say no. And by law and basic morals they must comply by that. No one has authority over your body and its never the victims fault, even if they could have avoided the interaction all together. The premise is as simple as going to a restaurant, ordering a meal and deciding not to eat it. No one can or should force you to eat it, not even the chef who painstakingly put it together.
If people want to bemoan her for being reckless , at the very least seperate that discussion from whether she was raped or not. 2 very different topics.
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Well, your restaurant example was maybe the worst there is. That's right that nobody can force you to eat it, but once you make an order and the food is done for you, you still have to pay it. Well technically not, but once in a court the court needs to decide whether you'd need pay it or not. Making the case as of not having sex with someone, the court would need to decide if you had to have sex with the guy you gave consent to, but eventually decided not to.
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Well Going to the restaurant is the equivalent of flirting... ordering the food is already a lot further.