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teigaga said:
only777 said:
CosmicSex said:
Yes it sounds dodgy, but if she says she was raped than what really needs to happen is that the police need to investigate. I know too many girls who were actually rapped so lets not act like this isn't a serious issue. Faking rape is also serious as well... because well, its a real issue. Worse yet, most of the rape cases I know of involved girls who were under-aged... which is even more depressing.

Oh of course rape is a very real and awful thing.  But I think people like this ruin it for the many people who are real victims.  No sane person could argue that getting naked and taking a shower with someone isn't giving someone an open invitation for sex.

Doing that then claiming rape is bollocks, and just only makes it harder for the real people who are abused to be taken seriously.

Also to irresponsibility of travelling to South Africa to promote an anti rape campaign, and then not report her own incident to the police.  I mean come on.

At any point, any individual has the freedom to remove consent (if they've even given it). Being naked is not consent to sex. You can be flirtatious as fuck and give out whatever signals you want, and people may understandably respond  with sexual advances, but you have the freedom to say no. And by law and basic morals they must comply by that. No one has authority over your body and its never the victims fault, even if they could have avoided the interaction all together. The premise is as simple as going to a restaurant, ordering a meal and deciding not to eat it. No one can or should force you to eat it, not even the chef who painstakingly put it together. 

If people want to bemoan her for being reckless , at the very least seperate that discussion from whether she was raped or not. 2 very different topics.

Well, your restaurant example was maybe the worst there is. That's right that nobody can force you to eat it, but once you make an order and the food is done for you, you still have to pay it. Well technically not, but once in a court the court needs to decide whether you'd need pay it or not. Making the case as of not having sex with someone, the court would need to decide if you had to have sex with the guy you gave consent to, but eventually decided not to.





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