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A_C_E said:
o_O.Q said:

look the point i was making here is that if someone is producing less testosterone than a woman then they will not develope into a man because the male sex hormone is needed for a man to develope physiologically

what evidence do you have that there are men that exist with less testosterone than women because this completely goes against what we know about biology?

I have lots of proof that testosterone on its own is not sufficient enough for the male to develop into a male, are you kidding me? lol

"the amount of testosterone does not dictate whether a man is a man"

so since women have testosterone too why don't they develop the same way as men? please explain this one for me

 

"Your fire analogy was not one to show the effects of testosterone physically but instead was used to describe what would happen mentally"

as i said and you agreed, physiology and psychology are linked

yes it causes more aggression as a psychological effect but it also causes physiological effects... as i've been saying over and over again there is no dividing line between both

 

"do you even know the effects of testosterone"

i have to ask the question because from your claims its obvious that you don't know how these things work and therefore before you try to speak on them it would be best to go and read up on them

 

" why it would be better to look at an individual as an individual"

ironically it is the beliefs you are pushing that are grounded in a desire to erase individuality, but for some reason you can't see it

Psychology and physiology are not linked in the manner that you are proposing, two completely different engines when you put testosterone into the mix as well. I was pointing out that both fields could be used in conversation at the same time since testosterone affects both, not that both act in the same way, and you seem to purposfully misjudge these notions and fit them into your imaginary puzzle.

Ok lets just stop here because we are literally going in circles of you asking silly questions and me answering them never in the way you like.

-edit- Which is not to say I think you're below me because I don't think that way at all, I just get the feeling this conversation is going nowhere, blame that on me all you want.

 

"I have lots of proof that testosterone on its own is not sufficient enough for the male to develop into a male, are you kidding me?"

this is what i said " the male sex hormone is needed for a man to develope physiologically" how does this translate to saying only testosterone is needed?

why are you incapable of reasoning things out?

 

"so since women have testosterone too why don't they develop the same way as men? please explain this one for me"

why did you skip my question? since women also possess testosterone why do they not develope into men?

 

"Psychology and physiology are not linked in the manner that you are proposing"

well prove that this is not the case instead of just asserting it... i can assert that the moon is made of cheese doesn't mean that its true

so far all you've succeeded in doing is demonstrating that you don't really know what any of these things mean and here are you are trying to school people on it

 

" I was pointing out that both fields could be used in conversation at the same time since testosterone affects both, not that both act in the same way"

i sincerely do not comprehend what you are trying to say here

 

"fit them into your imaginary puzzle."

lol oh so i'm the person who isn't in touch with reality? lol ok buddy

 

"Which is not to say I think you're below me because I don't think that way at all"

yes i remember your heart warming proclamation from before... you are definitely a more "moral" person than i am for sure



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A_C_E said:
DonFerrari said:

Nope. Your fault is denying that the hormones have an effect of physicological aspects of woman and man and saying that is because both produce it in some way.

And yes most of the emotions (but no pre-menstrual issues) could be produced by either gender... but why a set of them is more common on men or women? And why men and women have different inclinations and interests? Guess why, because they are different.

Never denied hormones having any effect on the physical nature of the mind and body, why would I deny such a thing? Are you being serious?

I have already stated that testosterone and estrogen are more common in one than the other, have you not read what you are responding to? You are literally re-typing what I have already stated. You are talking about averages as in women do more of this because on average they produce more estrogen. I'm am talking about the unconfined nature of testosterone and estrogen or any biological chemical reproduced through body and mind. The amygdala works in the exact same manner in women as it does for men, but like you say which I have already agreed upon, women should be more emotional throughout their lifetime due the different levels of chemicals produced in the body and mind. Clearly you don't understand my footprint in this discussion.

Ok so we don't need to talk further since even though you avoid so much you accepted that psychological differences existe between male and female as well as physical.

Yes there are women that are stronger than men and more rational, etc. but we look on average not the odd cases.

hershel_layton said:
1) What the hell are you doing drinking alcohol at 16? Am I the only one on this planet that doesn't drink? I mean REALLY! Your dad protects you, but for some reason lets you go out in a party with alcohol and stupid teens.

2) It's quite funny. They'll cry over things such as this(and they sometimes have a good reason to do so). Yet, when a guy complains that a girl is insulting him severely(calling him a rapist, loner, etc) they just say to stop being butthurt- it's just a joke. Nice honesty there.

3) "I love him, but I hate him". So you're telling me you love a guy who beats you up? Oh hell no! I wouldn't care who the person is. If someone physical harms you, then whoop their ass back! I wouldn't care if it's my father(though my parents would never do so). If someone tries to hurt you, use self defense. If it's to the point where you might hurt them, do it. Protect yourself, by any means necessary.

4) Why do feminists ALWAYS put all men together? They get mad when people do it with feminists, but will happily do it with men(fun fact: there are MORE MEN THAN FEMINISTS. Shocking, I know).

5) At the end, she says every insult has some truth to it. So why the hell are you "emotionally hurt" by it? Look, here's the way you can solve the stupid and immature insults:

Are they true? If so, then why get hurt? Why cry over reality? Get over it and move on. And if you don't like it, make a change. No one is stopping you.

If the person is an idiot(and a liar), then why are you even feeling hurt? You know it's a myth, so just forget the buffoon and keep living life. For instance, if a couple of kids in my school said I give blowjobs to my teacher, I know it isn't true! Make a witty comeback to the idiot, or give them a quick beating. Just don't back down. Besides, most kids can tell the difference between a real story and something made by the gossip girl.

In conclusion: I'd like to quote a song as a response to this video:

"Why the fuck you lyin’?
Why you always lyin’?
Hmmmmm Oh my god
Stop fucking lying!"

You really addressed the point



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Oh, another issue.

Why can women expect perfect men and complain when they make mistakes, yet when men do it, it's horrible and selfish?

Come on. Talk about double standards. Feminists nowadays just want an excuse if they ever fail



 

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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=212275
To people that say man aren't sensitive about rape... sometimes they are too sensitive.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

SpokenTruth said:

That's not what I'm talking about.  If I told you someone was attacked, if your first concern was what the person did that got them attacked, then you have a victim blaming mentality. 

I'm nto saying people shouldn't be careful or shouldn't be held accountable for intentionally placing themselves in unwarranted danger. But that doesn't absolve who attacked them. 



My first concern wouldn't be what the person that got attacked did.

If you get attacked and someone says you shouldn't have been there, are you going to say "NO SHIT" or are you going to argue that's where you should have been because you had the right?

In common sense, if you hadn't been with the attacker, you hadn't been assaulted, or if you hadn't been where you were attacked, you hadn't been assaulted. In feminist narrative, this is causal, and if you hadn't been with the attacker, someone else had assaulted you, if you had been somewhere else, you'd been assaulted somewhere else. This is because of a circular argument of where all men are rapists because of this.

It's not like the feminists didn't blame the victim for being assaulted - it's quite the opposite, just depends who's the victim and who the assaulter is - which leads us back to causality argument: as it is causal for some women getting raped and not for some, Gödel would tell us that it has to be because of a quality of the victim. This won't do for obvious reasons, so we could try the statistics, that tells us that unless you're in a wrong place, at a wrong time, with a wrong guy, chances of getting raped are non. But, it won't fit the narrative because not all men would be rapists and getting raped wouldn't be causal.

Some things are out of one's control, and that's what you can do nothing about, but your own actions can help to prevent you from getting yourself to a situation where things get out of control. 



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

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I'm promising myself to avoid threads like this in the future. Sorry for getting banned and leaving you on your own SpokenTruth. It seems out of our control anyway.
My opinion is that women should not be held accountable for having been raped. The idea that they should be sounds absurd to me but that's as far as I'll go.
I hope you all are humbled before you're stuck with Hentai for life. I am genuine in saying that. Try to avoid the militants who just try to get your attention (so you'll attack them back) because that creates a self-fulfilling prophesy: they say men are pigs, you respond defiantly, they say this is proof, you respond defiantly etc.
If I had a wish it would be for all people here to read one Feminist scholar's work objectively. Read about the Suffrage movement, or the sexual revolution. Please don't let GamerGate and militant feminists ruin all the others' image for you.
Best of luck



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ReimTime said:
I'm promising myself to avoid threads like this in the future. Sorry for getting banned and leaving you on your own SpokenTruth. It seems out of our control anyway.
My opinion is that women should not be held accountable for having been raped. The idea that they should be sounds absurd to me but that's as far as I'll go.
I hope you all are humbled before you're stuck with Hentai for life. I am genuine in saying that. Try to avoid the militants who just try to get your attention (so you'll attack them back) because that creates a self-fulfilling prophesy: they say men are pigs, you respond defiantly, they say this is proof, you respond defiantly etc.
If I had a wish it would be for all people here to read one Feminist scholar's work objectively. Read about the Suffrage movement, or the sexual revolution. Please don't let GamerGate and militant feminists ruin all the others' image for you.
Best of luck

 

"I hope you all are humbled before you're stuck with Hentai for life."

 

lol it just amuses me when men who supposedly are fighting for the emancipation of women then use sex as a shaming tactic against other men

 

do you not realise that you are in effect hurting your cause by doing so? lol its bs like this that tells me that the lot of you don't really believe in the values you claim to be fighting for

 

this is how what you posted there translated in my head "you better get in line with my ideology or you won't get any sex from women"

 

i thought you were above such a caveman attitude as valuing women for their sexuality? 



o_O.Q said:
ReimTime said:
I'm promising myself to avoid threads like this in the future. Sorry for getting banned and leaving you on your own SpokenTruth. It seems out of our control anyway.
My opinion is that women should not be held accountable for having been raped. The idea that they should be sounds absurd to me but that's as far as I'll go.
I hope you all are humbled before you're stuck with Hentai for life. I am genuine in saying that. Try to avoid the militants who just try to get your attention (so you'll attack them back) because that creates a self-fulfilling prophesy: they say men are pigs, you respond defiantly, they say this is proof, you respond defiantly etc.
If I had a wish it would be for all people here to read one Feminist scholar's work objectively. Read about the Suffrage movement, or the sexual revolution. Please don't let GamerGate and militant feminists ruin all the others' image for you.
Best of luck

 

"I hope you all are humbled before you're stuck with Hentai for life."

 

lol it just amuses me when men who supposedly are fighting for the emancipation of women then use sex as a shaming tactic against other men

 

do you not realise that you are in effect hurting your cause by doing so? lol its bs like this that tells me that the lot of you don't really believe in the values you claim to be fighting for

 

this is how what you posted there translated in my head "you better get in line with my ideology or you won't get any sex from women"

 

i thought you were above such a caveman attitude as valuing women for their sexuality? 

 

What I am saying is that exemplifying the opinions as expressed in this thread will only negatively effect your relationships with (the majority of, but not all) female peers. This doesn't just include the females you may be sexually interested to; a lot of people (male and female, young and old) may lose respect for you if they hear you advocate that opinion. Using Hentai as an example was a poor attempt at humor - connecting to how Hentai portrays women being connected to the views expressed, and a loss of friends leading to sexual frustration and a longing for companionship... but I digress. Obviously that isn't a guaranteed outcome.

Moving past that, I do believe in the values I am fighting for, and tbh I'm not sure how you came to the opposite conclusion. Don't put words into my mouth please.

All in all, I disagree with the opinion that women should be at fault when they are raped. Again it is an absurd notion in my head, but I won't gain any ground trying to convince you of my opinion. Just please, if you do anything at all, read about the Suffrage movement or any other legitimate feminist movement (not the hateful men are pigs movement) before you make up your mind on women's rights. And please at least reconsider the view of women being at fault for rape.



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AbbathTheGrim said:

This is why I decided to become lesbian.

Its a choice. I knew it! lol





ReimTime said:
o_O.Q said:
ReimTime said:
I'm promising myself to avoid threads like this in the future. Sorry for getting banned and leaving you on your own SpokenTruth. It seems out of our control anyway.
My opinion is that women should not be held accountable for having been raped. The idea that they should be sounds absurd to me but that's as far as I'll go.
I hope you all are humbled before you're stuck with Hentai for life. I am genuine in saying that. Try to avoid the militants who just try to get your attention (so you'll attack them back) because that creates a self-fulfilling prophesy: they say men are pigs, you respond defiantly, they say this is proof, you respond defiantly etc.
If I had a wish it would be for all people here to read one Feminist scholar's work objectively. Read about the Suffrage movement, or the sexual revolution. Please don't let GamerGate and militant feminists ruin all the others' image for you.
Best of luck

 

"I hope you all are humbled before you're stuck with Hentai for life."

 

lol it just amuses me when men who supposedly are fighting for the emancipation of women then use sex as a shaming tactic against other men

 

do you not realise that you are in effect hurting your cause by doing so? lol its bs like this that tells me that the lot of you don't really believe in the values you claim to be fighting for

 

this is how what you posted there translated in my head "you better get in line with my ideology or you won't get any sex from women"

 

i thought you were above such a caveman attitude as valuing women for their sexuality? 

 

What I am saying is that exemplifying the opinions as expressed in this thread will only negatively effect your relationships with (the majority of, but not all) female peers. This doesn't just include the females you may be sexually interested to; a lot of people (male and female, young and old) may lose respect for you if they hear you advocate that opinion. Using Hentai as an example was a poor attempt at humor - connecting to how Hentai portrays women being connected to the views expressed, and a loss of friends leading to sexual frustration and a longing for companionship... but I digress. Obviously that isn't a guaranteed outcome.

Moving past that, I do believe in the values I am fighting for, and tbh I'm not sure how you came to the opposite conclusion. Don't put words into my mouth please.

All in all, I disagree with the opinion that women should be at fault when they are raped. Again it is an absurd notion in my head, but I won't gain any ground trying to convince you of my opinion. Just please, if you do anything at all, read about the Suffrage movement or any other legitimate feminist movement (not the hateful men are pigs movement) before you make up your mind on women's rights. And please at least reconsider the view of women being at fault for rape.

 

"What I am saying is that exemplifying the opinions as expressed in this thread will only negatively effect your relationships with (the majority of, but not all) female peers"

 

so why did you choose to only use the sexual side as a punishment? you didnt say that having this mindset will impact negatively on emotional connections with women or your abiliy to bond with them

you focused only on what men use for sexual release and that tells me something... especially because its the most common manipulative tactic used by feminists against men whether they be male or female

ironically you would think that men using alternative methods for sexual release over women would be celebrated as a way of lowering the chances of women having dangerous interactions with men but its not, its used as a shaming tactic lol

 

"a lot of people (male and female, young and old) may lose respect for you if they hear you advocate that opinion."

 

which opinions are you talking about exactly? 

 

"Moving past that, I do believe in the values I am fighting for"

 

well your actions tell me that this is not the case

now here i'm not talking about you specifically but feminist men in general... they always let slip in many ways that they are some of the biggest sexists around in that they think women are weak and incapable of taking responsibility

 

"I disagree with the opinion that women should be at fault when they are raped. Again it is an absurd notion in my head, but I won't gain any ground trying to convince you of my opinion."

 

and everyone here is in agreement with you... all people are saying is that precautions can be taken to avoid or lower the chances of encountering dangerous situations

 

"if you do anything at all, read about the Suffrage movement or any other legitimate feminist movement"

 

ironically i'm sure i know more about the feminist movement, its origins and its real goals than you do

 

" And please at least reconsider the view of women being at fault for rape."

 

well i would if i had that view to begin with