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Are you left winged or right winged?

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TheGamer95 said:
I am right winged by German standarts. That would equal to center in the US.
But then again Germany is very left winged, i mean just denying that global warming is that big of an issue makes you an "ignorant conservative" here. Like Germany is literially full with tree hugers.

That's because 'Global Warming' isn't the general term scientists use anymore, it's Climate Change. The term Global Warming seems more used by deniers, so using it yourself makes you sound like one.

I do find it funny though, Climate Change/Global Warming does exist, it's proven by evidence. However the thing in debate is 'Man made...' CC/GW. Are we responsible for contributing to the worlds change in climate or if the world adjusting to somethng else.

Eitherway, doesn't mean people should polute more.





Hmm, pie.

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The Fury said:
TheGamer95 said:
I am right winged by German standarts. That would equal to center in the US.
But then again Germany is very left winged, i mean just denying that global warming is that big of an issue makes you an "ignorant conservative" here. Like Germany is literially full with tree hugers.

That's because 'Global Warming' isn't the general term scientists use anymore, it's Climate Change. The term Global Warming seems more used by deniers, so using it yourself makes you sound like one.

I do find it funny though, Climate Change/Global Warming does exist, it's proven by evidence. However the thing in debate is 'Man made...' CC/GW. Are we responsible for contributing to the worlds change in climate or if the world adjusting to somethng else.

Eitherway, doesn't mean people should polute more.

 

 

I am not denying it. I just think that the world has a lot more problems RIGHT NOW which we should focus on instead of something that might be a problem in the future.



Now this is fun, living in a country like Italy where the government is one of the most corrupted in the world (if not THE MOST corrupted) this is how the current political scene looks like:
Right: the most corrupted portion of the government, also pretty racist;
Left: Less corrupted but still REALLY corrupted and they have terrible bills;
Plus there is a jumble of minor parties that don't necerssarily recognize themselves in either side or in the middle that say they want to change the coutry but in the end when they are given the opportunity they get corrupted.
Also most of this minor parties have some extremely stupid plans that would take the country on the edge of the abyss (like if it wasn't already), just to name a few:
Movimento 5 Stelle (Five Star Popular Movement): This "party" started as a joke from the comedian Beppe Grillo who then decided to make it something serious, he currently is at the top of the party as well as beeing a blogger. The problem with this party is that their main goal is to get Italy out of the UE that by any point of view is like declaring Bankrupcy. also beeing a popular movement they aren't cohesive meaning that they are easily corruptible;
Lega Nord(North League): This party is just a mess: they first started as a right party but soon became something else saying that they want to Split Italy among North and South since they believe that the South is the only region that is corrupted (which *hint*hint* isn't true), then they said that they want to leave the UE too, then they said that they want to stop accepting immigrants (which isn't exactly the easyest thing to do when Italy is one of the neares countries to Africa), the only good proposal they made was to eliminate Gypsy fields since Gypsy people are saddly one of the strongest collaborators of mafia groups since they aren't technically Italian citizens so they are "protected" if they go against the italian law.

Luckily I'm too young to vote and I hope the political scene will change but the situation has been the same for more than 40 years now (excluding the latest parites I talked about of course...)



I am a right-leaning centrist. Used to be more left-leaning, but i don't like where the left is going at this point



RolStoppable said:
Teeqoz said:

It won't become a dictatorship, but it will become a country where fewer and fewer people get more and more power. (it's pretty obvious that when the percentage of non-voters increase, each individual vote carries more weight.)

The real power is divided among few people to begin with; those who have money. There are countless lobbyists who influence the politicians in charge, but since there are so many lobbyists for so many different fields, the entire thing cannot go too far in any direction.

 

That depends a lot on where you live. I guess I'm just lucky to live in Norway.



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I'm more or less straight down the centre.
I think the amount of state ownership matters less than your attitude to social issues nowadays though. Social issues I'm heavily libertarian. I think everyone should be able to do whatever they like, unless it interferes with other people doing the same. And more importantly we should actively fight to make sure people can do that.

(some people agree that in principle you should legally be free to do almost anything but then spend all their time trying to attack people who do things they don't like)



Anarcho-Capitalist.

You could say that's super right wing, in that it's the smallest possible Government. But super-right wing is fascism, which is also essentially the polar-opposite of Anarcho-Capitalism.



TheGamer95 said:

I am not denying it. I just think that the world has a lot more problems RIGHT NOW which we should focus on instead of something that might be a problem in the future.

I got that. Just explaining why 'global warming' term is still used and why someone would be labeled 'ignorant conservative' if that term is used.

 

 

On topic, I'm centre left but vote based on policies. 





Hmm, pie.

AsGryffynn said:
I am a communist. No bonus points for guessing where that puts me...

High five!





Groundking said:
Socialism and Marxists (Marx btw, was a moron with money, hence where all his stupid ideas came from) ideologies has lead to obscene numbers of people killed in the past 100 years. I really don't see how anybody can support any idea that a big government is a good idea, as government ends up corrupt, war-mongering and is immoral with its initiation of force on the populace (Taxes, making kids go to school, obscene laws like the drug laws etc.).

I'm pretty strongly right wing, people should be free to do what they want as long as what they do isn't violent against other people (the exception to this is Boxers/MMA fighters/Martial Artists etc, as they are willing to get into violent situations, either for entertainment, personal pride or whatever). The government should have no say in schools and hospitals, taxes should be minimal, and only enough to sustain a police force, fireservice and army sufficient enough to protect the country, NOT to go invading other countries. Government in it's essence should really be a regulatory body who decides, on advice from scientists, mininum standards for pollution/food quality/ etc, and set sensible laws, such as killing somebody should lead to jail, and whatnot. Other than that the government needs to fuck off out of our lives, surrender the control of money, and thus interest rates, which is where the majority of economic strife has come from for the past few decades and let people get on with life. If somebody wants to lose their minds on drugs just let them ffs.

Marx has one of the most coherent and worked-out social and economic theories there is that clearly analizes the problems in a capitalist society and the way by which such a society economically operates. Given, Marx never formulated a clear awnser to this problem, that has been often left to other thinkers/statemen like Lenin (to name one of the more positive ones), sometimes with horrible effects. But these effects were never Marx' fault. If anything, Marx' theories saved a lot more people from horrible conditions that the number of people so-called communist regimes killed. Marx' theories are still very relevant and applicable.

On the other hand, the objectivist, libertarian views of someone like Ayn Rand just don't work, they inevitably lead to abuse, formation of huge monopolies, needless deaths due to heavy deregulation, egotism and so on. Ayn Rand also betrayed a system that allowed her to study and gain the knowledge needed to write filth like 'Atlas Shrugged' in the first place.